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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "Prophet" wrote:
    New Yankee stadium looks damn nice:

    http://www.forbes.com/video/?video=fvn/sports/tvr_yankeecoo033108&partner=videoslide_yankeestadi um

    There are few things worse than sitting inside and watching a baseball game.
    That's coming from a guy that has watched the Twinkies win the WS in the dome.
    Baseball is meant to be played outside.
    Yeah I bet that game yesterday would have been way better outside.
    Actually, I think yesterday would have been a blast if it was outdoors.
    It wasn't really that cold out...could have worn a parka and been fine.
    Would have been a great game to tailgate for as long as you dressed appropriately.
    Wouldn't want to show up in a t-shirt.
    It was snowing, they would have had to reschedule, which is a disadvantage. But atleast it is at the beginning of the season so they have all year to make it up, unlike the playoffs in October that will really screw up some travel plans.
    Even the cancelation of a playoff game wouldn't be too severe.
    Plus, the likelyhood of that happening is pretty rare.
    We don't see hardly any snow in October.
    If somebody is too pussy to attend a chilly playoff game, I'll take their ticket.
    Baseball is meant to be played outdoors.
    After attending several outdoor baseball venues last year throughout the country, the metrodome will NEVER be the same.
    It's meant to be played out doors in warm weather climates, not Minnesota from April to November. I'm guessing the twins will be right up their with the top teams for most post-poned and cancelled games. If 2007 would have been played out doors I know they would have missed several games, and there would have been several others that would have had rain delays. When games do get skipped usually they are made up in a double header later in the season which is a disadvantage because they will end up playing 6 games in 5 days and need to go to the 6th man in the rotation more often.
    I'm stoked about the new stadium but a retractable roof makes a lot more sense.

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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    [quote author=Prophet link=topic=43723.msg751094#msg751094 date=1207058313]
    New Yankee stadium looks damn nice:

    http://www.forbes.com/video/?video=fvn/sports/tvr_yankeecoo033108&partner=videoslide_yankeestadi um

    There are few things worse than sitting inside and watching a baseball game.
    That's coming from a guy that has watched the Twinkies win the WS in the dome.
    Baseball is meant to be played outside.
    Yeah I bet that game yesterday would have been way better outside.
    Actually, I think yesterday would have been a blast if it was outdoors.
    It wasn't really that cold out...could have worn a parka and been fine.
    Would have been a great game to tailgate for as long as you dressed appropriately.
    Wouldn't want to show up in a t-shirt.
    It was snowing, they would have had to reschedule, which is a disadvantage. But atleast it is at the beginning of the season so they have all year to make it up, unlike the playoffs in October that will really screw up some travel plans.
    Even the cancelation of a playoff game wouldn't be too severe.
    Plus, the likelyhood of that happening is pretty rare.
    We don't see hardly any snow in October.
    If somebody is too pussy to attend a chilly playoff game, I'll take their ticket.
    Baseball is meant to be played outdoors.
    After attending several outdoor baseball venues last year throughout the country, the metrodome will NEVER be the same.
    It's meant to be played out doors in warm weather climates, not Minnesota from April to November. I'm guessing the twins will be right up their with the top teams for most post-poned and cancelled games. If 2007 would have been played out doors I know they would have missed several games, and there would have been several others that would have had rain delays. When games do get skipped usually they are made up in a double header later in the season which is a disadvantage because they will end up playing 6 games in 5 days and need to go to the 6th man in the rotation more often.
    I'm stoked about the new stadium but a retractable roof makes a lot more sense.
    [/quote]

    Bleh, a retractable roof would just eat up a lot more public tax dollars...and therefore we probably wouldn't have a new stadium to even discuss.
    I don't really care about the few postponed games, doubleheaders are exciting to watch, even though they aren't technically a doubleheader if madeup due to postponments.

    Most of the northern and eastern teams have open roof stadiums and they all experience very similar weather to us.
    We see very little snowfall in April (poor timing for my argument
    ;D ) and October so again, if there is going to be any delays it's typically going to be rain related and every MLB market experiences that.
    Not to mention, just because it's raining doesn't mean they cancel the game...it has to be a farily considerable amount of constant rain.
    A little rain wouldn't hurt most fans as they'd be mostly covered by overhangs and seating.

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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

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    Most of the northern and eastern teams have open roof stadiums and they all experience very similar weather to us.
    Outside of Chicago and Detroit, I don't think any other city has a similar climate to the TC.
    Toronto and Milwaukee are both domes.
    The east coast cities are heavily modified by their proximity to the Atlantic, so they don't get nearly as cold as early or late.
    Snow is an anomaly, not a slight variation.

    Yesterday's game would have been canceled in the new stadium - I heard the Twins' director of operations say that on the news last night.

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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=43723.msg751111#msg751111 date=1207060944]
    [quote author=Prophet link=topic=43723.msg751094#msg751094 date=1207058313]
    New Yankee stadium looks damn nice:

    http://www.forbes.com/video/?video=fvn/sports/tvr_yankeecoo033108&partner=videoslide_yankeestadi um

    There are few things worse than sitting inside and watching a baseball game.
    That's coming from a guy that has watched the Twinkies win the WS in the dome.
    Baseball is meant to be played outside.
    Yeah I bet that game yesterday would have been way better outside.
    Actually, I think yesterday would have been a blast if it was outdoors.
    It wasn't really that cold out...could have worn a parka and been fine.
    Would have been a great game to tailgate for as long as you dressed appropriately.
    Wouldn't want to show up in a t-shirt.
    It was snowing, they would have had to reschedule, which is a disadvantage. But atleast it is at the beginning of the season so they have all year to make it up, unlike the playoffs in October that will really screw up some travel plans.
    Even the cancelation of a playoff game wouldn't be too severe.
    Plus, the likelyhood of that happening is pretty rare.
    We don't see hardly any snow in October.
    If somebody is too pussy to attend a chilly playoff game, I'll take their ticket.
    Baseball is meant to be played outdoors.
    After attending several outdoor baseball venues last year throughout the country, the metrodome will NEVER be the same.
    It's meant to be played out doors in warm weather climates, not Minnesota from April to November. I'm guessing the twins will be right up their with the top teams for most post-poned and cancelled games. If 2007 would have been played out doors I know they would have missed several games, and there would have been several others that would have had rain delays. When games do get skipped usually they are made up in a double header later in the season which is a disadvantage because they will end up playing 6 games in 5 days and need to go to the 6th man in the rotation more often.
    I'm stoked about the new stadium but a retractable roof makes a lot more sense.
    [/quote]

    Bleh, a retractable roof would just eat up a lot more public tax dollars...and therefore we probably wouldn't have a new stadium to even discuss.
    I don't really care about the few postponed games, doubleheaders are exciting to watch, even though they aren't technically a doubleheader if madeup due to postponments.

    Most of the northern and eastern teams have open roof stadiums and they all experience very similar weather to us.
    We see very little snowfall in April (poor timing for my argument
    ;D ) and October so again, if there is going to be any delays it's typically going to be rain related and every MLB market experiences that.
    Not to mention, just because it's raining doesn't mean they cancel the game...it has to be a farily considerable amount of constant rain.
    A little rain wouldn't hurt most fans as they'd be mostly covered by overhangs and seating.
    [/quote]
    The argument was made on KFAN today about what happens if the twins are in the world series in late Octobober and we get another snowstorm/early winter like we did a few years ago. If the weather stays cold(ground frozen/snow) likely the twins would be forced to play there home games at the away stadium. I bet if that happens all the outdoor crowd is going to be a little peeved. Probably will never happen, but it certainly is a possibility.

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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    The argument was made on KFAN today about what happens if the twins are in the world series in late Octobober and we get another snowstorm/early winter like we did a few years ago. If the weather stays cold(ground frozen/snow) likely the twins would be forced to play there home games at the away stadium. I bet if that happens all the outdoor crowd is going to be a little peeved. Probably will never happen, but it certainly is a possibility.
    I guess we should start hoping for Global Warming.

    Drive those SUV's!!!
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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

    "C" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    The argument was made on KFAN today about what happens if the twins are in the world series in late Octobober and we get another snowstorm/early winter like we did a few years ago. If the weather stays cold(ground frozen/snow) likely the twins would be forced to play there home games at the away stadium. I bet if that happens all the outdoor crowd is going to be a little peeved. Probably will never happen, but it certainly is a possibility.
    I guess we should start hoping for Global Warming.

    Drive those SUV's!!!
    Silly, while Global Warming does create hotter temperatures in some places, it creates colder weather in others (in all seriousness). Global Warming causes "crazier" weather, not just warmer weather. So winters will be colder, longer, hurracanes will be stronger,, longer droughts, etc. Global Warming 's name is slightly misleading b/c everyone hears Warming and thinks that's all it does. It warms the atmosphere, but by doing that, creates instability in the environment, causing "crazier" weather.
    Trying to bring rationale to an irrational site

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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    [quote author=BloodyHorns82 link=topic=43723.msg751114#msg751114 date=1207061212]
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=43723.msg751111#msg751111 date=1207060944]
    [quote author=Prophet link=topic=43723.msg751094#msg751094 date=1207058313]
    New Yankee stadium looks damn nice:

    http://www.forbes.com/video/?video=fvn/sports/tvr_yankeecoo033108&partner=videoslide_yankeestadi um

    There are few things worse than sitting inside and watching a baseball game.
    That's coming from a guy that has watched the Twinkies win the WS in the dome.
    Baseball is meant to be played outside.
    Yeah I bet that game yesterday would have been way better outside.
    Actually, I think yesterday would have been a blast if it was outdoors.
    It wasn't really that cold out...could have worn a parka and been fine.
    Would have been a great game to tailgate for as long as you dressed appropriately.
    Wouldn't want to show up in a t-shirt.
    It was snowing, they would have had to reschedule, which is a disadvantage. But atleast it is at the beginning of the season so they have all year to make it up, unlike the playoffs in October that will really screw up some travel plans.
    Even the cancelation of a playoff game wouldn't be too severe.
    Plus, the likelyhood of that happening is pretty rare.
    We don't see hardly any snow in October.
    If somebody is too pussy to attend a chilly playoff game, I'll take their ticket.
    Baseball is meant to be played outdoors.
    After attending several outdoor baseball venues last year throughout the country, the metrodome will NEVER be the same.
    It's meant to be played out doors in warm weather climates, not Minnesota from April to November. I'm guessing the twins will be right up their with the top teams for most post-poned and cancelled games. If 2007 would have been played out doors I know they would have missed several games, and there would have been several others that would have had rain delays. When games do get skipped usually they are made up in a double header later in the season which is a disadvantage because they will end up playing 6 games in 5 days and need to go to the 6th man in the rotation more often.
    I'm stoked about the new stadium but a retractable roof makes a lot more sense.
    [/quote]

    Bleh, a retractable roof would just eat up a lot more public tax dollars...and therefore we probably wouldn't have a new stadium to even discuss.
    I don't really care about the few postponed games, doubleheaders are exciting to watch, even though they aren't technically a doubleheader if madeup due to postponments.

    Most of the northern and eastern teams have open roof stadiums and they all experience very similar weather to us.
    We see very little snowfall in April (poor timing for my argument
    ;D ) and October so again, if there is going to be any delays it's typically going to be rain related and every MLB market experiences that.
    Not to mention, just because it's raining doesn't mean they cancel the game...it has to be a farily considerable amount of constant rain.
    A little rain wouldn't hurt most fans as they'd be mostly covered by overhangs and seating.
    [/quote]
    The argument was made on KFAN today about what happens if the twins are in the world series in late Octobober and we get another snowstorm/early winter like we did a few years ago. If the weather stays cold(ground frozen/snow) likely the twins would be forced to play there home games at the away stadium. I bet if that happens all the outdoor crowd is going to be a little peeved. Probably will never happen, but it certainly is a possibility.
    [/quote]

    The turf of stadiums is kept covered in times like this and therefore would not freeze without prolonged exposure to the elements...so this KFAN argument is invalid.
    The odds of this ever happening, much less in our lifetime are so low it's near impossible...

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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    The turf of stadiums is kept covered in times like this and therefore would not freeze without prolonged exposure to the elements...so this KFAN argument is invalid.
    The odds of this ever happening, much less in our lifetime are so low it's near impossible...
    Oh, come on, BH!
    You say the odds are "so low it's near impossible"?

    Mainly because the Twins aren't likely to get into the playoffs any time soon, not that it won't snow in October or November!

    =Z=

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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    The turf of stadiums is kept covered in times like this and therefore would not freeze without prolonged exposure to the elements...so this KFAN argument is invalid.
    The odds of this ever happening, much less in our lifetime are so low it's near impossible...
    Oh, come on, BH!
    You say the odds are "so low it's near impossible"?

    Mainly because the Twins aren't likely to get into the playoffs any time soon, not that it won't snow in October or November!

    =Z=
    No joke that is one of the main reasons!

    Also though, I was debating the fact that the ground would become so frozen they wouldn't be able to play their playoff games in MN (According to a KFAN argument jmdono brought up) It may snow in Early October, but to get cold enough, for a long enough period of time to actually freeze the ground to an unplayable state is crazy talk.
    Not going to happen.

    EDIT:
    There are plenty of other stadiums that play outdoor in snowy/wintery climates...when is the last time a team was forced to play their home playoff games elsewhere?

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    Re: Here Come The Super-Stadiums

    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    "Zeus" wrote:
    "BloodyHorns82" wrote:
    The turf of stadiums is kept covered in times like this and therefore would not freeze without prolonged exposure to the elements...so this KFAN argument is invalid.
    The odds of this ever happening, much less in our lifetime are so low it's near impossible...
    Oh, come on, BH!
    You say the odds are "so low it's near impossible"?

    Mainly because the Twins aren't likely to get into the playoffs any time soon, not that it won't snow in October or November!
    No joke that is one of the main reasons!

    Also though, I was debating the fact that the ground would become so frozen they wouldn't be able to play their playoff games in MN (According to a KFAN argument jmdono brought up) It may snow in Early October, but to get cold enough, for a long enough period of time to actually freeze the ground to an unplayable state is crazy talk.
    Not going to happen.
    Like I said up above, I saw the Twins director of stadium operations on the 10pm news last night.
    He was talking about how the new field will have heating elements in the outfield (curiously, he did not mentione the infield), as well as modern drainage and all that hoo-ha.

    But he did say yesterday's game would have been postponed.

    =Z=

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