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    Re: Garcia the savior?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think the vikings would have been 2-3 wins better this year with Garcia but we would still have questions about jackson and the QB position as a whole, plus we would have less cap room. The team is taking a long term aproach and Garcia would have only been a short term answer.
    Finally, someone with a clue.

    Great post.
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    Again 2 people with some reality checks for some to see besides shorterm answers. I hate the guys with win now only. I realize the guy has to learn but he can learn faster on the field then watching. Our whole team believes in him and that is what helped TJack work harder throughout the year.
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    Re: Garcia the savior?

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    Garcia as a Savior? No. I have kinda been dancing around the issue, but, to say it plainly, McNabb coming in with Jackson and Bollinger as 2 & 3 respectively makes the most sense to me. And with Chilly's propensity for bringing in "his" guys, I can't but help to think that McNabb will be in purple next year. Of course all this prognostication really makes no difference as none of us are on the 'Vikes payroll. I just really hope to see McNabb in purple. Also, I am not saying that he will be a "savior", he would provide intelligent qb play and act as a rolemodel for Jackson. In that capacity, McNabb would perform far better then Garcia, in my humble opinion, Thats all I got. ;D
    I think you lost me my friend.

    Are you saying you want to have the following QB's on the roster next year?

    a. McNabb
    b. KH
    c.
    BB

    What happens to TJ?
    You just drop him?
    Bet he wouldn't last on the open market long.
    Marrdro how did you get that out of his post?

    1. Donovan McNabb
    2. Tarvaris Jackson
    3. Brooks Bollinger

    I would be so thrilled with this. I know I sound like a broken record but we should do everything in our power to make this happen. Although I would not be pissed if he does not come here. We just would have to make a huge splash in the FA market for WR and OL or via trade.

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    Re: Garcia the savior?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think the vikings would have been 2-3 wins better this year with Garcia but we would still have questions about jackson and the QB position as a whole, plus we would have less cap room. The team is taking a long term aproach and Garcia would have only been a short term answer.
    Finally, someone with a clue.

    Great post.
    ;D
    Yeah but the short term also pays off in the long run too. You can't deny that getting that stop gap wouldn't help TJax's development. Not to mention how huge it is for a team/city/fanbase to make the playoffs!!! Winning begets more winning people.

    We should've sold out for Brees in '06. We should've sold out for Garcia in '07. We should sell out for McNabb in '08.

    Not gonna happen though and we will struggle to remain competitive with TJax in '09.
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    Re: Garcia the savior?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Jereamiah" wrote:
    Garcia as a Savior? No. I have kinda been dancing around the issue, but, to say it plainly, McNabb coming in with Jackson and Bollinger as 2 & 3 respectively makes the most sense to me. And with Chilly's propensity for bringing in "his" guys, I can't but help to think that McNabb will be in purple next year. Of course all this prognostication really makes no difference as none of us are on the 'Vikes payroll. I just really hope to see McNabb in purple. Also, I am not saying that he will be a "savior", he would provide intelligent qb play and act as a rolemodel for Jackson. In that capacity, McNabb would perform far better then Garcia, in my humble opinion, Thats all I got. ;D
    I think you lost me my friend.

    Are you saying you want to have the following QB's on the roster next year?

    a. McNabb
    b. KH
    c.
    BB

    What happens to TJ?
    You just drop him?
    Bet he wouldn't last on the open market long.
    Marrdro how did you get that out of his post?

    1. Donovan McNabb
    2. Tarvaris Jackson
    3. Brooks Bollinger

    I would be so thrilled with this. I know I sound like a broken record but we should do everything in our power to make this happen. Although I would not be pissed if he does not come here. We just would have to make a huge splash in the FA market for WR and OL or via trade.
    I can agree on the first 2, but I would rather see a mif round rookie there at #3 One that could have alot of upside but maybe needs to sit a a couple of seasons and be there just in case.

    As far as Garcia he has a history of being able to do well with what he has to work with, Like mcNabb has in the past and also what Garrard has done this year.

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    Re: Garcia the savior?

    "Garland" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Jereamiah" wrote:
    Garcia as a Savior? No. I have kinda been dancing around the issue, but, to say it plainly, McNabb coming in with Jackson and Bollinger as 2 & 3 respectively makes the most sense to me. And with Chilly's propensity for bringing in "his" guys, I can't but help to think that McNabb will be in purple next year. Of course all this prognostication really makes no difference as none of us are on the 'Vikes payroll. I just really hope to see McNabb in purple. Also, I am not saying that he will be a "savior", he would provide intelligent qb play and act as a rolemodel for Jackson. In that capacity, McNabb would perform far better then Garcia, in my humble opinion, Thats all I got. ;D
    I think you lost me my friend.

    Are you saying you want to have the following QB's on the roster next year?

    a. McNabb
    b. KH
    c.
    BB

    What happens to TJ?
    You just drop him?
    Bet he wouldn't last on the open market long.
    Marrdro how did you get that out of his post?

    1. Donovan McNabb
    2. Tarvaris Jackson
    3. Brooks Bollinger

    I would be so thrilled with this. I know I sound like a broken record but we should do everything in our power to make this happen. Although I would not be pissed if he does not come here. We just would have to make a huge splash in the FA market for WR and OL or via trade.
    I can agree on the first 2, but I would rather see a mif round rookie there at #3 One that could have alot of upside but maybe needs to sit a a couple of seasons and be there just in case.

    As far as Garcia he has a history of being able to do well with what he has to work with, Like mcNabb has in the past and also what Garrard has done this year.
    1. Donovan McNabb
    2. Tarvaris Jackson
    3. Chad Henne, Colt Brennan or Erik Ainge

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    Re: Garcia the savior?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Jereamiah" wrote:
    Garcia as a Savior? No. I have kinda been dancing around the issue, but, to say it plainly, McNabb coming in with Jackson and Bollinger as 2 & 3 respectively makes the most sense to me. And with Chilly's propensity for bringing in "his" guys, I can't but help to think that McNabb will be in purple next year. Of course all this prognostication really makes no difference as none of us are on the 'Vikes payroll. I just really hope to see McNabb in purple. Also, I am not saying that he will be a "savior", he would provide intelligent qb play and act as a rolemodel for Jackson. In that capacity, McNabb would perform far better then Garcia, in my humble opinion, Thats all I got. ;D
    I think you lost me my friend.

    Are you saying you want to have the following QB's on the roster next year?

    a. McNabb
    b. KH
    c.
    BB

    What happens to TJ?
    You just drop him?
    Bet he wouldn't last on the open market long.
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    Re: Garcia the savior?

    "nikoli" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think the vikings would have been 2-3 wins better this year with Garcia but we would still have questions about jackson and the QB position as a whole, plus we would have less cap room. The team is taking a long term aproach and Garcia would have only been a short term answer.
    Finally, someone with a clue.

    Great post.

    ;D
    Yeah but the short term also pays off in the long run too. You can't deny that getting that stop gap wouldn't help TJax's development. Not to mention how huge it is for a team/city/fanbase to make the playoffs!!! Winning begets more winning people.

    We should've sold out for Brees in '06. We should've sold out for Garcia in '07. We should sell out for McNabb in '08.
    Not gonna happen though and we will struggle to remain competitive with TJax in '09.
    What do you exatcly mean by selling out? That term makes me cringe. I don't want to sell out for a one to two year band-aid. I could see maybe selling out a bit for Brees (lots of gas left in the tank), but for the other two. No thanks. I also would like to draft someone in the mid rounds with a lot of potential after sitting for a couple of years. I'm thinking Colt would be nice in the fourth or fifth (if he is still there).

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    Re: Garcia the savior?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "Jereamiah" wrote:
    Garcia as a Savior? No. I have kinda been dancing around the issue, but, to say it plainly, McNabb coming in with Jackson and Bollinger as 2 & 3 respectively makes the most sense to me. And with Chilly's propensity for bringing in "his" guys, I can't but help to think that McNabb will be in purple next year. Of course all this prognostication really makes no difference as none of us are on the 'Vikes payroll. I just really hope to see McNabb in purple. Also, I am not saying that he will be a "savior", he would provide intelligent qb play and act as a rolemodel for Jackson. In that capacity, McNabb would perform far better then Garcia, in my humble opinion, Thats all I got. ;D
    I think you lost me my friend.

    Are you saying you want to have the following QB's on the roster next year?

    a. McNabb
    b. KH
    c.
    BB

    What happens to TJ?
    You just drop him?
    Bet he wouldn't last on the open market long.
    Marrdro how did you get that out of his post?

    1. Donovan McNabb
    2. Tarvaris Jackson
    3. Brooks Bollinger

    I would be so thrilled with this. I know I sound like a broken record but we should do everything in our power to make this happen. Although I would not be pissed if he does not come here. We just would have to make a huge splash in the FA market for WR and OL or via trade.
    Thats why he lost me.
    I missread the post.
    My apologies.
    Must have been drinking.
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    Re: Garcia the savior?

    "nikoli" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    I think the vikings would have been 2-3 wins better this year with Garcia but we would still have questions about jackson and the QB position as a whole, plus we would have less cap room. The team is taking a long term aproach and Garcia would have only been a short term answer.
    Finally, someone with a clue.

    Great post.

    ;D
    Yeah but the short term also pays off in the long run too. You can't deny that getting that stop gap wouldn't help TJax's development. Not to mention how huge it is for a team/city/fanbase to make the playoffs!!! Winning begets more winning people.

    We should've sold out for Brees in '06. We should've sold out for Garcia in '07. We should sell out for McNabb in '08.

    Not gonna happen though and we will struggle to remain competitive with TJax in '09.
    I agree to a point that a Vet does help the Rookie but it always comes back to one point for me.

    Coaches coach, players play.
    The guy who continue to make sure that TJ progresses on schedule will continue to be the QB coach and not a Vet.

    Anyone remember what Lord Favre said about Rogers when he was drafted by the GB front office?

    "Let him learn on his own, I have no responsibility to teach him."
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