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    Re: Nazi Facist League

    "BadlandsViking" wrote:
    I think that would be good name change
    Are you trying to say we should build them a stadium?

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    Re: Nazi Facist League

    WTF?
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: Nazi Facist League

    ummmmmmmmm

    trying too hard?
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    Re: Nazi Facist League

    http://www.purplepride.org/forums/index.php?topic=48806.msg858856#msg858856

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    Re: 'Freedom of speech' not guaranteed in NFL

    "BadlandsViking" wrote:
    If the players are paid by the teams that makes the teams there bosses.
    So why is it so bad to speak against the NFL they don't pay them do they?
    The NFL is the controlling entity.
    Each team is a franchise, but still subject to the NFL's rules and regulations.
    So while the players answer directly to the team, they also answer to the NFL.
    Zeus wrote:
    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: 'Freedom of speech' not guaranteed in NFL

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    "BadlandsViking" wrote:
    If the players are paid by the teams that makes the teams there bosses.
    So why is it so bad to speak against the NFL they don't pay them do they?
    The NFL is the controlling entity.
    Each team is a franchise, but still subject to the NFL's rules and regulations.
    So while the players answer directly to the team, they also answer to the NFL.
    And coaches and players have been fined for speaking to the press about officiating for YEARS, not just since Goodell took office.

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    Re: 'Freedom of speech' not guaranteed in NFL

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    Freedom of speech applies to people speaking out against government entities, not about privately held corporations restricting negative public comments about the management.
    But regardless, I agree 100% with Jared Allen in this case.
    The fines are getting silly.
    I disagree.

    Freedom of speech is not exclusive to political interests.

    Our first amendment right to free speech entitles us to express ourselves freely, as long as we aren't infringing on someone else's rights.

    If the first amendment only pertained to politics, then film, literature, and other media would be far more censored than they are now.

    As far as the NFL goes, these players knew/know the rules when they sign their contract.

    Just like any other profession, the argument would be made:

    "If you don't like our rules, go find another job."
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    Re: 'Freedom of speech' not guaranteed in NFL

    "SnoBumMN" wrote:
    I disagree.

    Freedom of speech is not exclusive to political interests.

    Our first amendment right to free speech entitles us to express ourselves freely, as long as we aren't infringing on someone else's rights.

    If the first amendment only pertained to politics, then film, literature, and other media would be far more censored than they are now.

    As far as the NFL goes, these players knew/know the rules when they sign their contract.

    Just like any other profession, the argument would be made:

    "If you don't like our rules, go find another job."
    I can just hear my boss now.
    ;D

    Excellent post my friend.

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    Re: 'Freedom of speech' not guaranteed in NFL

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    Pretty good article on the unbelievable ammounts of fines coming out of the NFL.

    Jared Allen seems pretty fired up, and rightfully so.

    I stated in another thread this morning that Roger Goodell is destroying the NFL... and this is what I mean. These fines completely spit in the face of everything Gene Upshaw accomplished for the players in the NFL.

    If you break down some of these guys' weekly game checks, then factor in the 30+% tax rate... these players are being robbed... not only of money, but their basic rights of freedom of speech.


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    October 28, 2008 11:00 AM

    Posted by ESPN.com's Kevin Seifert

    EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. -- Should NFL players be allowed to criticize their employers and co-workers in a public forum?

    The NFL has placed a steep price on negatively critiquing the work of officials and even club management this season, and players are starting to notice. Minnesota defensive end Jared Allen provided a voice to their concerns Monday, saying that recent fines of $20,000 and up are "getting out of hand."
    It amazes me that in a country where freedom of speech is guaranteed by the United States Constitution, so many people get fired for voicing their opinions.
    Believe it or not it is also stated in the Constitution that if the American Government ever becomes too oppressive--it is OUR DUTY to abolish it by any means necessary.
    I wish we had the guts our founding fathers did.
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    Re: 'Freedom of speech' not guaranteed in NFL

    "Vikeman" wrote:
    It amazes me that in a country where freedom of speech is guaranteed by the United States Constitution, so many people get fired for voicing their opinions.
    Believe it or not it is also stated in the Constitution that if the American Government ever becomes too oppressive--it is OUR DUTY to abolish it by any means necessary.
    I wish we had the guts our founding fathers did.
    The NFL is not the government.
    It's a private entity.
    And they have ALWAYS fined players/coaches/owners and such who shoot their mouths off to the press.
    And it is well within their rights as a private enterprise.

    "Freedom of Speech" does not supercede contractual agreements.
    Nor should it.

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