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    The Final Word Power Poll - Week 13

    Here is this week's edition of

    [size=16pt]The Final Word Power Poll[/size]

    which is, of course, based on the only stat which matters.

    1. (tie) San Diego - 10-2
    1. (tie) Indianapolis - 10-2
    1. (tie) Chicago - 10-2
    4. (tie) New England - 9-3
    4. (tie) Baltimore - 9-3
    6. (tie) Dallas - 8-4
    6. (tie) New Orleans - 8-4
    6. (tie) Seattle - 8-4
    9. (tie) NY Jets - 7-5
    9. (tie) Cincinnati - 7-5
    9. (tie) Jacksonville - 7-5
    9. (tie) Kansas City - 7-5
    9. (tie) Denver - 7-5
    14. (tie) NY Giants - 6-6
    14. (tie) Philadelphia - 6-6
    14. (tie) Atlanta - 6-6
    14. (tie) Carolina - 6-6
    18. (tie) Minnesota - 5-7
    18. (tie) Buffalo - 5-7
    18. (tie) Miami - 5-7
    18. (tie) Pittsburgh - 5-7
    18. (tie) Tennessee - 5-7
    18. (tie) San Francisco - 5-7
    18. (tie) St. Louis - 5-7
    25. (tie) Cleveland - 4-8
    25. (tie) Houston - 4-8
    25. (tie) Washington - 4-8
    25. (tie) Green Bay - 4-8
    29. (tie) Tampa Bay - 3-9
    29. (tie) Arizona - 3-9
    31. (tie) Detroit - 2-10
    31. (tie) Oakland - 2-10

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    Re: The Final Word Power Poll - Week 13

    The other peasants:

    [size=12pt]ESPN[/size]

    Bears (4)
    The bad news is Rex Grossman's QB rating against the Vikings was 1.3. The good news is that was up from his 0.0 rating at the end of the third quarter.

    Vikings (24)
    Things are getting messy in Minnesota. The defense is blaming the offense after the Bears loss, calling for changes and saying that if the defense doesn't score, the Vikings won't win.

    Packers (28)
    While Brett Favre said he's glad he came back, this is the first time all season he's looked like a beaten man. Many more losses like this might make it harder for him to come back next year.

    Lions (32)
    Look, Mike Williams is hardly a model citizen, but it seems a little harsh to punk him out by playing backup QB Josh McCown at receiver. For the record McCown now has two catches to Williams' one this season.

    [size=12pt]CBS Sportsline[/size]

    Bears (5)
    The quarterback play is awful, which has to be a concern heading to the playoffs. At some point, Rex Grossman has to make plays.

    Vikings (20)
    It's time for a quarterback change. Brad Johnson can't get it done and this team isn't going anywhere.

    Packers (28)
    After a little run, they've come back to reality with two consecutive losses. This is a young team, so it's all about the next couple of seasons.

    Lions (32)
    They showed some fight in New England, which is a good thing. But the really good thing: They're still on pace for the first pick in the draft.

    [size=12pt]Fox Sports[/size]

    Bears (6)
    Chicago -- Sunday's 23-13 victory over Minnesota wasn't pretty--but a win is a win, and Lovie Smith will take them any way they come. Rex Grossman had a passer rating of 1.3--0.0 after the first quarter--in the win, going a putrid 6-19 for 34 yards. The former Heisman Trophy candidate struggled again, tossing 3 interceptions. FOXSports.com's homepage headline on Monday afternoon said it all: "Just Gross, Man". Luckily for the Bears, there's no such thing as "style points" in the NFL. That said, the Bears defensive unit played a beautiful game. Despite giving up 307 yards of offense on Sunday, Chicago forced five turnovers, including four Brad Johnson interceptions. Coach Smith responded sternly to questions over a potential quarterback controversy, telling reporters after the game: "There's a difference between perception and reality. The reality is we're 10-2 right now. We just won the division with Rex at quarterback, so that's what I go on."

    Vikings (24)
    Minnesota -- A week after using savvy veteran leadership and crafty guile to beat Arizona, quarterback Brad Johnson was benched during Sunday's 23-13 loss in Chicago for his futility. The former Super Bowl champion quarterback threw four interceptions in the contest and went 11 of 26 for only 73 yards. His replacement fared no better. In only a few minutes worth of action, backup Brooks Bollinger--despite completing 7 of 9 passes--was sacked three times and knocked out of the game after being taken down by Bears defensive end Adewale Ogunleye late in the fourth quarter. Minnesota, who only a few weeks back were 4-2, are now 5-7 and losers of five of their last six. A playoff berth seems unlikely, but is certainly not impossible. After all, Minnesota plays in the NFC.

    Packers (25)
    Green Bay -- Ugh. What a disastrous season it's been for the Packers. Now 1-5 at home on the year, Green Bay's suffered consecutive blow-out losses in Lambeau Field. Two weeks after the Patriots marched into Green Bay and beat the Pack 35-0, the Jets came right in and walloped 'em 38-10. Does Brett Favre regret his decision to come back this year? After the game, he commented, "I'm glad I made the decision to come back, but this is difficult. I never thought I'd see it, but here we are. I never thought I'd be part of a game or a season like we've had the last two years." Rough times in Green Bay. Rough times, in deed.

    Lions (32)
    Detroit -- The Lions looked good on Sunday, hanging tight with the Patriots until the bitter end. Alas, in the end, Michigan's football teams--both pro and college--came out on the losing end of close calls on Sunday night. Hey, at least the Lions actually lost theirs on the field.

    [size=12pt]Dr. Z-SI[/size]

    Bears (4)
    More dysfunction. With boos still ringing through Soldier Field after their QB stunk it up against the Vikings, Lovie Smith faced a hostile press and gave his "perception vs. reality" speech ... you know how it goes, "the reality is that we're 10-2," and the rest of the accompanying nonsense. But in another area, offensive coordinator Ron Turner was calmly and professionally addressing the major problem on this team, Rex Grossman. "He's thinking too much," Turner said. "but seeing things that aren't there. You just have to react, and that's what I talked to him about. React. Go back to what you were doing early in the year; you were just playing football." What worries me about this scenario is an upcoming announcement from the head coach that from now on all assistants will be off limits to the press.

    Vikings (23)
    Almost buried while everybody worked the angle of the Bears' monumental failure on offense was the fact that Brad Johnson, long considered a rock of stability, threw four picks and was replaced by former Jets back-up Brooks Bollinger, after he threw three interceptions on consecutive series. Even worse, coach Linehan gave no assurance that Bollinger might not be the starter next week. It's what happens when a QB is 38. The season gets awfully long.

    Packers (27)
    I spent a lot of time watching left defensive end Aaron Kampman, as a candidate for my all-pro team. He was going against the Jets' huge but slow-footed Anthony Clement, which should have been a good match-up for him. But he spent the afternoon just spinning his wheels, and then the sad realization came to me. The guy is simply worn out. Not enough relief help. Too much time on the field, battling his heart out in a lost cause.

    Lions (32)
    Now we're working the graveyard shift. Critics have ripped them for taking the field goal when they had a fourth-and-1 on the Patriots' 8, leading by five early in the fourth quarter. Not me. They might not have made it. The Patriots' D-line is better than the Lions' O-line. And even if they'd have made it, so what? Who's to say they'd have negotiated the rest of the yardage for the TD? No, take your points, go up by eight, and pray that your defense can hold. Actually it wasn't the defense that killed them, it was the offense that turned the ball over three times in the remaining minutes.

    [size=12pt]About.com[/size]

    Bears (4)
    With their division wrapped up and a two-game lead in the NFC, the Bears essentially have four practice games ahead of them for Grossman to re-establish some sort of confidence

    Vikings (24)
    The Vikings are finding out it’s probably not a good idea to count on a 38-year-old quarterback (who’s playing like he’s 68) as the only proven starter at the position.

    Packers (25)
    If it weren’t for Brett Favre’s chase of Dan Marino’s touchdown record, Packers fans wouldn’t have much to cheer for.

    Lions (32)
    This is the Lions sixth straight season with at least 10 losses. And Matt Millen still has a job because…?


    [size=12pt]Gridiron Grumblings[/size]

    Bears (3)
    Vikings (19)
    Packers (25)
    Lions (31)


    [size=12pt]Football Outsiders (DVOA Ratings)[/size]

    Bears (2)
    I'm sure he's a nice fellow, but is it possibly time to question Wade Wilson's qualifications as a quarterback coach? In three years in Chicago, he's had bad middle-aged quarterbacks (Jonathan Quinn), bad young quarterbacks (Craig Krenzel, Kyle Orton), and imploding young quarterbacks (Rex Grossman). He was also quarterbacks coach in Dallas from 2000-2002, where he mentored (so to say) Ryan Leaf, Quincy Carter, Anthony Wright, Clint Stoerner, and Chad Hutchinson.

    Vikings (17)
    Minnesota's pass defense is so much worse than the run defense that you wonder why anybody even tries to run the ball. On most teams, the leader in individual defensive plays (the total of tackles, turnovers, passes defensed, and sacks) is a linebacker. Three of the top four Vikings in individual defensive plays are defensive backs: Winfield, Smoot, and Sharper. (The lone linebacker is E.J. Henderson, second.)

    Packers (22)
    Green Bay was looking good at midseason, but the Packers have now lost three straight. It seems that the youngsters are starting to hit a wall. For the offensive line, it might be a fatigue wall. For the young linebackers, it's more of a "we know how to attack these guys" wall. Chad Pennington tossed pass after pass into soft spots in the Green Bay zone. Also, zone blitzes can be a bit of a problem if the defensive lineman you drop into coverage isn't actually very good at coverage (Hint: Aaron Kampman).

    Lions (32)
    We all want to talk about Mike Martz and joke about the three top-10 wide receiver picks and what the heck is Josh McCown doing playing receiver, and so on. But look at that defensive rating: 32, as in last. That's the biggest reason the Lions are 2-10.
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    Re: The Final Word Power Poll - Week 13

    Vikings (17)
    Minnesota's pass defense is so much worse than the run defense that you wonder why anybody even tries to run the ball. On most teams, the leader in individual defensive plays (the total of tackles, turnovers, passes defensed, and sacks) is a linebacker. Three of the top four Vikings in individual defensive plays are defensive backs: Winfield, Smoot, and Sharper. (The lone linebacker is E.J. Henderson, second.)
    Packers (22)
    That says a lot.
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    Re: The Final Word Power Poll - Week 13

    Screw the ratings!!!
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    Re: The Final Word Power Poll - Week 13

    "Acumen" wrote:
    Vikings (17)
    Minnesota's pass defense is so much worse than the run defense that you wonder why anybody even tries to run the ball. On most teams, the leader in individual defensive plays (the total of tackles, turnovers, passes defensed, and sacks) is a linebacker. Three of the top four Vikings in individual defensive plays are defensive backs: Winfield, Smoot, and Sharper. (The lone linebacker is E.J. Henderson, second.)
    Packers (22)
    That says a lot.
    It says Winfield makes tackles, they throw at Smoot a lot and Darren Sharper has had to cover a lot of the field for Dwight Smith.

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    Re: The Final Word Power Poll - Week 13

    "AWZeus" wrote:
    "Acumen" wrote:
    Vikings (17)
    Minnesota's pass defense is so much worse than the run defense that you wonder why anybody even tries to run the ball. On most teams, the leader in individual defensive plays (the total of tackles, turnovers, passes defensed, and sacks) is a linebacker. Three of the top four Vikings in individual defensive plays are defensive backs: Winfield, Smoot, and Sharper. (The lone linebacker is E.J. Henderson, second.)
    Packers (22)
    That says a lot.
    It says Winfield makes tackles, they throw at Smoot a lot and Darren Sharper has had to cover a lot of the field for Dwight Smith.

    =Z=
    I don't know ... Smoot is not even on the field all that much and I expect Winfield and Sharper to make plays, but what this really says is we are still lacking a play-making linebacker.

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    Re: The Final Word Power Poll - Week 13

    Our D should do nothing but get better next year. there will be some moves which i think will help and Greenway will be back and hopefully he will be awsome.

    The O should get better as well, there will be Wr moves which no matter what they are will help. Chester will still be here. we will have year "1" under the new system down. Hopefully the QB situation will be resolved as well and hopefully TJ will be done learning and be able to help the team out, if not maybe we get another QB in the offseason, right now no one is worse than BJ.

    I forsee a much better team next year.
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    Re: The Final Word Power Poll - Week 13

    "midgensa" wrote:
    "AWZeus" wrote:
    "Acumen" wrote:
    Vikings (17)
    Minnesota's pass defense is so much worse than the run defense that you wonder why anybody even tries to run the ball. On most teams, the leader in individual defensive plays (the total of tackles, turnovers, passes defensed, and sacks) is a linebacker. Three of the top four Vikings in individual defensive plays are defensive backs: Winfield, Smoot, and Sharper. (The lone linebacker is E.J. Henderson, second.)
    Packers (22)
    That says a lot.
    It says Winfield makes tackles, they throw at Smoot a lot and Darren Sharper has had to cover a lot of the field for Dwight Smith.

    =Z=
    I don't know ... Smoot is not even on the field all that much and I expect Winfield and Sharper to make plays, but what this really says is we are still lacking a play-making linebacker.
    I think the LB play this year has been stellar and one of the true successes of the Tomlin era.
    The LBs aren't making as many tackles because they aren't on the fields as much since teams (lately) aren't going out there in running sets.
    It's 3, 4 and 5 wide-outs which keeps LBs off the field.
    Switching to a bit of 3-4 is an effor by Tomling to KEEP his LBs on the field, particularly Ben Leber.

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    Ya I thought Ben had a couple of nice plays. If he woulda had that second pick.............ohhhhh it hurts to bad to think about it.
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    Vikings (23)
    Almost buried while everybody worked the angle of the Bears' monumental failure on offense was the fact that Brad Johnson, long considered a rock of stability, threw four picks and was replaced by former Jets back-up Brooks Bollinger, after he threw three interceptions on consecutive series. Even worse, coach Linehan gave no assurance that Bollinger might not be the starter next week. It's what happens when a QB is 38. The season gets awfully long.

    When did Brad Childress get fired?
    Or did we make a trade for Linehan?
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.

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