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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
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    "midgensa" wrote:
    Not just the stats. If you watched the game ... you can definitely tell they are beatable.

    It will take a solid game, but I personally think we are the kind of team that can get them. They do NOT have super speedy receivers, which means if you can get pressure up front you can defend them well with a decent nickel package.

    They do not SCARE me. They are very solid though.
    When they thumped the Giants, I was a little worried.
    Then the Giants get thumped again by Philly.
    NO's game against the Phins made them look stronger for coming back and then turning it on than looking bad for being down to the Phins in the first place.

    The game last night against ATL [size=10pt]was one that shows they do make mistakes[/size].
    The INT by Brees was an awesome snag by the DB from ATL.
    The fumbles by the RBs, we can get those with our D.


    We just have to concentrate on not turning the ball over.
    Protect that ball!
    Have the ball last!
    Despite those mistakes they still put a thumbin on a up and coming good gol 'darnit team.
    Throw in that they only really have the Patriots and the Falcons again, that might be able to beat them and you have a team that will have homefield advantage throughout the playoffs.

    Just look at the way thier recievers matchup against us.
    Super speedy, no, big and able to go up and get it, yes.
    Multiple threats out of the backfield, TE that can block and catch the ball, QB who can get it to any place on the field.

    I for one don't think they are that easy of a matchup.
    Rodgers is another Qb that is suppose to be able to make every throw on the field.
    Granted the Saints have a better line and Brees gets rid of the ball faster.
    They did get 2 sacks on Brees with a FS and a DT.

    Turner can run on them, we need to also.
    I think the fact that they have to respect the pass will help.
    I just hope we get to play them in the playoffs.
    All good points, especially about Rodgers, but as you said, thier line is better.


    I for one, hope we don't meet them in the playoffs.

    The only reason I wouldn't want to face them is because that would probably mean we are playing them in the SuperDome.
    If they are out of the playoffs early, then we might have a chance to play the NFC Championship game in the HomerDome.

    8)
    Positive thinking!

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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

    Nesbit will be filling in at center, he had only played one game at center in his career until he had to come into the game last night.
    Is Brees good enough to cover for him like Favre does for Sullivan?
    Sure, Nesbit has been around a lot longer, but, going to C with the big boys when you have played the position one game in your NFL/college career may put a damper on their explosive offense.
    [size=1pt]This ought to get marrdro going off on his center being a hero tirade.[/size]
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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    [quote author=midgensa link=topic=54003.msg1013066#msg1013066 date=1257261807]
    Not just the stats. If you watched the game ... you can definitely tell they are beatable.

    It will take a solid game, but I personally think we are the kind of team that can get them. They do NOT have super speedy receivers, which means if you can get pressure up front you can defend them well with a decent nickel package.

    They do not SCARE me. They are very solid though.
    When they thumped the Giants, I was a little worried.
    Then the Giants get thumped again by Philly.
    NO's game against the Phins made them look stronger for coming back and then turning it on than looking bad for being down to the Phins in the first place.

    The game last night against ATL [size=10pt]was one that shows they do make mistakes[/size].
    The INT by Brees was an awesome snag by the DB from ATL.
    The fumbles by the RBs, we can get those with our D.


    We just have to concentrate on not turning the ball over.
    Protect that ball!
    Have the ball last!
    Despite those mistakes they still put a thumbin on a up and coming good gol 'darnit team.
    Throw in that they only really have the Patriots and the Falcons again, that might be able to beat them and you have a team that will have homefield advantage throughout the playoffs.

    Just look at the way thier recievers matchup against us.
    Super speedy, no, big and able to go up and get it, yes.
    Multiple threats out of the backfield, TE that can block and catch the ball, QB who can get it to any place on the field.

    I for one don't think they are that easy of a matchup.
    Rodgers is another Qb that is suppose to be able to make every throw on the field.
    Granted the Saints have a better line and Brees gets rid of the ball faster.
    They did get 2 sacks on Brees with a FS and a DT.

    Turner can run on them, we need to also.
    I think the fact that they have to respect the pass will help.
    I just hope we get to play them in the playoffs.
    All good points, especially about Rodgers, but as you said, thier line is better.


    I for one, hope we don't meet them in the playoffs.

    The only reason I wouldn't want to face them is because that would probably mean we are playing them in the SuperDome.
    If they are out of the playoffs early, then we might have a chance to play the NFC Championship game in the HomerDome.

    8)
    Positive thinking!
    [/quote]

    At this point, I think it's still up in the air.
    Vikes are 7-1, Saints are 7-0.
    First tie-breaker for home-field advantage is conference record, and the Vikings are 5-0, while the Saints are 4-0.

    =Z=

    Thanks to Josdin for the awesome sig!

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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

    They have 8 Conf games to play and we only have 7.
    They have more opps to lose.

    We could use some help from New England and hate to say it, Dallas!
    ATL in ATL is another possibility.

    Saints:

    9 Sun, Nov 8 Carolina 4:05 PM FOX
    10 Sun, Nov 15 @ St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
    11 Sun, Nov 22 @ Tampa Bay 1:00 PM FOX
    12 Mon, Nov 30 New England 8:30 PM ESPN
    13 Sun, Dec 6 @ Washington 1:00 PM FOX
    14 Sun, Dec 13 @ Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
    15 Sat, Dec 19 Dallas 8:20 PM NFLN
    16 Sun, Dec 27 Tampa Bay 1:00 PM FOX
    17 Sun, Jan 3 @ Carolina

    Vikings:

    9 BYE WEEK
    10 Sun, Nov 15 Detroit 1:00 PM FOX
    11 Sun, Nov 22 Seattle 1:00 PM FOX
    12 Sun, Nov 29 Chicago 1:00 PM FOX
    13 Sun, Dec 6 @ Arizona 4:15 PM FOX
    14 Sun, Dec 13 Cincinnati 1:00 PM CBS
    15 Sun, Dec 20 @ Carolina 8:20 PM NBC
    16 Mon, Dec 28 @ Chicago 8:30 PM ESPN
    17 Sun, Jan 3 NY Giants 1:00 PM FOX

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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    They have 8 Conf games to play and we only have 7.
    They have more opps to lose.

    We could use some help from New England and hate to say it, Dallas!
    ATL in ATL is another possibility.
    My projections:

    Saints:
    Win
    9 Sun, Nov 8 Carolina 4:05 PM FOX
    Win
    10 Sun, Nov 15 @ St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    11 Sun, Nov 22 @ Tampa Bay 1:00 PM FOX
    Loss
    12 Mon, Nov 30 New England 8:30 PM ESPN
    Win
    13 Sun, Dec 6 @ Washington 1:00 PM FOX
    Loss
    14 Sun, Dec 13 @ Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    15 Sat, Dec 19 Dallas 8:20 PM NFLN
    Win
    16 Sun, Dec 27 Tampa Bay 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    17 Sun, Jan 3 @ Carolina

    So that's 14-2 with a 7-1 Conference record.

    Vikings:

    9 BYE WEEK
    Win
    10 Sun, Nov 15 Detroit 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    11 Sun, Nov 22 Seattle 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    12 Sun, Nov 29 Chicago 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    13 Sun, Dec 6 @ Arizona 4:15 PM FOX
    Win
    14 Sun, Dec 13 Cincinnati 1:00 PM CBS
    Win
    15 Sun, Dec 20 @ Carolina 8:20 PM NBC
    Loss 16 Mon, Dec 28 @ Chicago 8:30 PM ESPN
    Win
    17 Sun, Jan 3 NY Giants 1:00 PM FOX

    Also 14-2 with a 7-1 Conference record.

    Here are the tie-breakers:
    http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

    DETERMINING HOME-FIELD PRIORITY
    To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.
    TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
    If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

    If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
    If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
    Two Clubs
    Head-to-head, if applicable.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    Strength of victory.
    Strength of schedule.
    Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best net points in conference games.
    Best net points in all games.
    Best net touchdowns in all games.
    Coin toss.
    Head-to-head, not applicable.
    Conference records (in my scenario), tied.
    Common games (in my scenario), tied - both would be 5-0.
    Strength of victory.
    I'm assuming that means point differential in victories.
    Currently, NO leads that category 119 to 80.
    So the Vikings need to win some blowouts.
    I think that starts next week with Detroit.

    =Z=

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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

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    Hidden Plays of the Week: Hidden plays are ones that never make highlight reels, but stop or sustain drives. On the snap before Jason Elam missed a short field goal against New Orleans, the Falcons' Michael Jenkins dropped a pass that would have given Atlanta first-and-goal. With seven minutes remaining in the game, Drew Brees threw incomplete on third-and-5, and the Saints would have punted. But Falcons linebacker Mike Peterson was called for defensive holding; the Saints kept possession and scored the winning touchdown on the drive.
    We're bringing purple back.

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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

    If we have to meet the Saints in the playoffs, I want it to be at Mall of America Field.
    That means we need to be hoping for a conference loss by the Saints!
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    When are you going to realize that picking out the 20 bad throws this year and ignoring the 300 good ones does not make your point?

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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    If we have to meet the Saints in the playoffs, I want it to be at Mall of America Field.
    That means we need to be hoping for a conference loss by the Saints!
    They will, by the time the regular season is up I doubt the top of the NFC looks the same as it does today.

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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    If we have to meet the Saints in the playoffs, I want it to be at Mall of America Field.
    That means we need to be hoping for a conference loss by the Saints!
    They will, by the time the regular season is up I doubt the top of the NFC looks the same as it does today.
    have you seen their remaining schedule.
    win record is about .358, I hope they'll drop a game they shouldn't, but really I could see them going 16-0 at this point, not because they're a great team, but because they don't play any good teams.
    Giants and Falcons were the only ones.

    from here on, they play:
    Panthers
    @ Rams
    @ Bucs
    vs. Pats*
    @ skins
    @ falcons
    vs. Cowboys
    vs. Bucs
    @ Panthers

    The Pats I see as being the only tough team, but they've had issues, that game Will be dependent on how Brady plays.
    Falcons have the potential to cause them problems in their own house, but aside from those two games, its not very tough at all.
    14-2 is my prediction for worst case.

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    Re: Falcons vs Saints 11-2-9

    "Zeus" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    They have 8 Conf games to play and we only have 7.
    They have more opps to lose.

    We could use some help from New England and hate to say it, Dallas!
    ATL in ATL is another possibility.
    My projections:

    Saints:
    Win
    9 Sun, Nov 8 Carolina 4:05 PM FOX
    Win
    10 Sun, Nov 15 @ St. Louis 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    11 Sun, Nov 22 @ Tampa Bay 1:00 PM FOX
    Loss
    12 Mon, Nov 30 New England 8:30 PM ESPN
    Win
    13 Sun, Dec 6 @ Washington 1:00 PM FOX
    Loss
    14 Sun, Dec 13 @ Atlanta 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    15 Sat, Dec 19 Dallas 8:20 PM NFLN
    Win
    16 Sun, Dec 27 Tampa Bay 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    17 Sun, Jan 3 @ Carolina

    So that's 14-2 with a 7-1 Conference record.

    Vikings:

    9 BYE WEEK
    Win
    10 Sun, Nov 15 Detroit 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    11 Sun, Nov 22 Seattle 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    12 Sun, Nov 29 Chicago 1:00 PM FOX
    Win
    13 Sun, Dec 6 @ Arizona 4:15 PM FOX
    Win
    14 Sun, Dec 13 Cincinnati 1:00 PM CBS
    Win
    15 Sun, Dec 20 @ Carolina 8:20 PM NBC
    Loss 16 Mon, Dec 28 @ Chicago 8:30 PM ESPN
    Win
    17 Sun, Jan 3 NY Giants 1:00 PM FOX

    Also 14-2 with a 7-1 Conference record.

    Here are the tie-breakers:
    http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

    DETERMINING HOME-FIELD PRIORITY
    To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.
    TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
    If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

    If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
    If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.
    Two Clubs
    Head-to-head, if applicable.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
    Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
    Strength of victory.
    Strength of schedule.
    Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
    Best net points in conference games.
    Best net points in all games.
    Best net touchdowns in all games.
    Coin toss.
    Head-to-head, not applicable.
    Conference records (in my scenario), tied.
    Common games (in my scenario), tied - both would be 5-0.
    Strength of victory.
    I'm assuming that means point differential in victories.
    Currently, NO leads that category 119 to 80.

    So the Vikings need to win some blowouts.
    I think that starts next week with Detroit.

    =Z=
    doesn't strength of victory mean the winning percentage of teams we beat?
    As opposed to net points, which is a later tiebreaker.
    Currently I think we win the strength of victory, we've beat some alright teams, and the Saints schedule is awful.
    I'm not certain though who has the lead.

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