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    Re: Falcons fire Mora Jr.!!!

    Vick is fine. He had no receivers this year. Just like Brad and TJ had no receivers.
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    Re: Falcons fire Mora Jr.!!!

    it seems every year they bring in an alright reciever, and vick gives them the worst season of their carreer.
    (see peerless price), or ashley lelie.

    they don't all of a sudden become bad recievers when they go to atlanta, theyre just never given a chance to succeed in atlanta because of vick

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    Re: Falcons fire Mora Jr.!!!

    "WisconsinSucks" wrote:
    So does anyone see the similarity between Vick and Tarvaris?
    I mean besides the number 7.

    Everyone keeps saying that Vick sucks and then in another post states that Tarvaris is the future of the Vikings.

    So the question is can this type of QB excel in the NFL?
    I don't see the similarity, and I'm not even a T-Jack apologist.

    Tarvaris can throw bombs. Vick can't throw the football in a spiral in two straigt NFL game. And he hasn't learned in the past 5 offseasons.

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    "cc21" wrote:
    I can't believe that he got fired. I think that he is a good coach and a good guy. That is a shocker to me. Lets be realistic though guys. We are not going to fire Childress and pick up Mora.
    I was surprised!

    It has been a wierd year there in ATL though.
    Those comments by his dad about Vick, those were comments discussed at the dinner table IMHO, so that was JR's thoughts more than likely.
    Dad just was the one that verbalized them.

    I like Mora JR seemed like he had it together.
    He should get hired again right away.

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    Re: Falcons fire Mora Jr.!!!

    According to the 'Point After' guys at the NFL network yesterday, Deion Sanders should be considered for the Atlanta job. I could not help but laugh. They said he was energetic, wants to coach, has always been a winner and has a plan and competent coaches to work work with and all he needs is an organization that wants to win.
    Oh did I say he works for NFL network?
    ;D
    On another note whats up with Arthur blank (Falcons owner) hovering at the sidelines on every play, every news conference / practice etc. That sure does not make the work environment friendly.

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    Re: Falcons fire Mora Jr.!!!

    "cogitans" wrote:
    "WisconsinSucks" wrote:
    So does anyone see the similarity between Vick and Tarvaris?
    I mean besides the number 7.

    Everyone keeps saying that Vick sucks and then in another post states that Tarvaris is the future of the Vikings.

    So the question is can this type of QB excel in the NFL?
    I don't see the similarity, and I'm not even a T-Jack apologist.

    Tarvaris can throw bombs. Vick can't throw the football in a spiral in two straigt NFL game. And he hasn't learned in the past 5 offseasons.
    I disagree, but I also agree.

    First of all, Vick has a heck of an arm. He can throw the ball a looooong way and he can rifle it too. He just has problems with accuracy.

    But I agree that they are different quarterbacks. First of all, I don't think that Tarvaris is quite the athlete that Vick is. I don't think he's quite as fast or agile, even though Tarvaris is both of those things. Second, I think Tarvaris is more of a McNabb type guy than Vick is. McNabb uses his mobility to elude the rush and find receivers, whereas Vick is more of a "running" quarterback. Also, we base our judgements of Vick on several years of underproduction and his inability to develop as a passer. It has nothing to do with his physical skills.

    So to answer the first question, yes Tarvaris can be successful.

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    Re: Falcons fire Mora Jr.!!!

    "cogitans" wrote:
    "WisconsinSucks" wrote:
    So does anyone see the similarity between Vick and Tarvaris?
    I mean besides the number 7.

    Everyone keeps saying that Vick sucks and then in another post states that Tarvaris is the future of the Vikings.

    So the question is can this type of QB excel in the NFL?
    I don't see the similarity, and I'm not even a T-Jack apologist.

    Tarvaris can throw bombs. Vick can't throw the football in a spiral in two straigt NFL game. And he hasn't learned in the past 5 offseasons.
    Exactly!
    That's why we bring in Mora!
    He's already worked with Vick, think what he could do with a quarterback that has the ability of Vick AND can throw the ball!
    PERFECT SENSE! Right?!

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    Re: Falcons fire Mora Jr.!!!

    "Ltrey" wrote:
    "cogitans" wrote:
    "WisconsinSucks" wrote:
    So does anyone see the similarity between Vick and Tarvaris?
    I mean besides the number 7.

    Everyone keeps saying that Vick sucks and then in another post states that Tarvaris is the future of the Vikings.

    So the question is can this type of QB excel in the NFL?
    I don't see the similarity, and I'm not even a T-Jack apologist.

    Tarvaris can throw bombs. Vick can't throw the football in a spiral in two straigt NFL game. And he hasn't learned in the past 5 offseasons.
    I disagree, but I also agree.

    First of all, Vick has a heck of an arm. He can throw the ball a looooong way and he can rifle it too. He just has problems with accuracy.

    But I agree that they are different quarterbacks. First of all, I don't think that Tarvaris is quite the athlete that Vick is. I don't think he's quite as fast or agile, even though Tarvaris is both of those things. Second, I think Tarvaris is more of a McNabb type guy than Vick is. McNabb uses his mobility to elude the rush and find receivers, whereas Vick is more of a "running" quarterback. Also, we base our judgements of Vick on several years of underproduction and his inability to develop as a passer. It has nothing to do with his physical skills.

    So to answer the first question, yes Tarvaris can be successful.

    Yea, Tarvaris actually has touch when he throws, while Vick only has one speed in his passes: very Fast.

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    Maybe now Shaub won't cost as much as a RFA. Since the new coach won't have a vested interest in him!!
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    Re: Falcons fire Mora Jr.!!!

    "ChezPizmo" wrote:
    "cogitans" wrote:
    "WisconsinSucks" wrote:
    So does anyone see the similarity between Vick and Tarvaris?
    I mean besides the number 7.

    Everyone keeps saying that Vick sucks and then in another post states that Tarvaris is the future of the Vikings.

    So the question is can this type of QB excel in the NFL?
    I don't see the similarity, and I'm not even a T-Jack apologist.

    Tarvaris can throw bombs. Vick can't throw the football in a spiral in two straigt NFL game. And he hasn't learned in the past 5 offseasons.
    Exactly!
    That's why we bring in Mora!
    He's already worked with Vick, think what he could do with a quarterback that has the ability of Vick AND can throw the ball!
    PERFECT SENSE! Right?!

    ... R-right?
    I can see it now...

    Please welcome the new Offensive Coordinator/QBs coach of your Minnesota Vikings... Jim Mora Jr.!
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