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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

    I know that he is the all-time leading rusher. A former NFL and Super Bowl MVP. A 4-time rushing champion. A three time world champion. An 8-time Pro Bowler and 4 time All-Pro. The leader in all-time rushing touchdowns. Second only to Jerry Rice in career touchdowns and yards from scrimmage. And one of the toughest players to ever play the game.
    But some how, some way, Emmitt Smith is still underrated.
    All the top RB of all time lists start with Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Barry Sanders and the like. And Emmitt continually gets the "look who he played for" and "look at the line he played for" tag.
    I don't get it. I do not see many people come out and bash Joe Montana for playing with a GREAT offensive line and the best WR of all time. I don't see people bash Jerry Rice for catching passes from THREE different MVP QBs.
    I know Emmitt had a fabulous team around him. And sure, Barry would have put up spectacular numbers in Dallas. But Emmitt Smith had something Barry Sanders NEVER had. HEART.
    There was no player past or present that wanted to win more than Emmitt (some as much I am sure, but you could not want it more). The guy flat out was a touchdown MACHINE.
    Do I think Barry was more talented. Absolutely. He clearly had as much talent as the most talented backs to have played the game. And he was special. I am not saying he did not want to win. But he definitely did not have that drive you see in Emmitt Smith.
    I will take Emmitt. I know he is going to go forward every play. He is not going to dance around and hope for the spectacular. He is going to give you everything he has whether blocking, catching or running. And he flat out will get in the end zone.

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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

    Barry would have went forward every play as well if he had the same line Dallas had.
    Besides, I think you answered your own question....

    Do I think Barry was more talented. Absolutely. He clearly had as much talent as the most talented backs to have played the game. And he was special.
    I wonder how much drive and HEART Emmitt would have had behind the lines Sanders ran behind?
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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

    Sanders quit in the prime of his career and Smith was still running when he was circling the drain and it took that last effort to catch Sanders.
    Sanders wins, Smith wins in the perseverance department.
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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

    Without a doubt in my mind Barry Sanders.
    When you look at the different situations where you had Smith and all the great talent around him then you look at what Sanders did without anyone around him Sanders would be hands down my choice.
    In fact, even given the situations Sanders was always near him in rushing yards until he retired anyway.
    If he would have played as long as Smith he quite possibly could have the rushing yardage title instead of Smith.

    Not to take away what Smith accomplished.
    I just believe Sanders would have accomplished more if he was in the same situation

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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

    "ejmat" wrote:
    Without a doubt in my mind Barry Sanders.
    When you look at the different situations where you had Smith and all the great talent around him then you look at what Sanders did without anyone around him Sanders would be hands down my choice.
    In fact, even given the situations Sanders was always near him in rushing yards until he retired anyway.
    If he would have played as long as Smith he quite possibly could have the rushing yardage title instead of Smith.

    Not to take away what Smith accomplished.
    I just believe Sanders would have accomplished more if he was in the same situation
    I hope 10 years from now people aren't saying, look what AP did with what he had to work with........ :-X


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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

    Growing up and living in the Dallas area, I always had to watch the Cowboys play during this time in the 90's.
    There is good reason that this particular topic of Emmitt always comes up.
    It's because it's partly true.

    Yes, Emmitt was a great back.
    But, in my opinion his only phenomenal talent was being able to stay healthy all those years.
    I'm sure being on the team he was helped him stay healthy because he wasn't getting beat up every week.

    I can remember a play back in the mid-90's to open the season against the Giants.
    First play of the game, a simple draw up the middle.
    Emmitt goes through a hole about 10 feet wide and runs all the way for a 70 yard touchdown completely untouched.
    No jukes, no run-overs, nothing.
    Just running straight all the way.
    Phenomenal talent?
    Hardly.
    Then of course Emmitt starts waving his hand at the defenders behind him before he even scores, then takes off his helmet in the end zone and shakes his head with that little smirk (i.e. the Emmitt Rule).
    Someone talked about heart.... he always came across as very cocky and arrogant to me (him and Michael Irvin).

    If I were starting a team I would take Barry Sanders any day.
    It's not his fault he was stuck on the Lions.

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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

    Barry Sanders. Smith for the most part had a great supporting cast.

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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Barry would have went forward every play as well if he had the same line Dallas had.
    Besides, I think you answered your own question....

    Do I think Barry was more talented. Absolutely. He clearly had as much talent as the most talented backs to have played the game. And he was special.
    I wonder how much drive and HEART Emmitt would have had behind the lines Sanders ran behind?
    Doesn't matter. He didn't run behind that line.

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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

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    Just trying to get some input on a debate me and a buddy were having..cuz we all know PPO couldn't possibly be wrong
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    Barry Sanders.

    But neither of them was as good as this man:

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    Sanders is #3 after those 2.

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    Re: Emmitt Smith vs Barry Sanders

    Also ... the supporting cast argument is so lame and unfair to Smith. No player should be punished for playing with the players that are on his team.
    For the record:
    * In Sanders 10 seasons a member of that "awful" offensive line made the Pro Bowl every year except for his first and last (8 out of 10). In 1995, two players made it.
    * The "awful" team had 39 Pro Bowlers in those 10 seasons (about and average of 4!).
    * They lead the NFL in offense in 1995 and finished second in 1997. In scoring offense they were in the top 10 five different times.
    * He played with 9 1,000 yard receivers, including the Lions all-time leading receiver.
    * He compiled a 1-5 record in the playoffs, averaging a mere 64.3 yards a game and scoring only one touchdown.
    * He was never a solid receiver (but did play in an offense that allowed him to get some receiving yards in his career) and was always considered a sub-par blocker.

    Barry Sanders: Spectacular, yes. One of the great, yes. Probably the most talented, yes. A winner, absolutely not.

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