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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

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    Funny thing, not sure I would put Ginn in with PH and Jackson.
    Lets not forget, he was almost out of a job last week.
    Relegated to just KO duties cause he kept dropping the ball.

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    The only reason Ginn got in there was because of his two KR for TDs on Sunday.
    If he concentrates on his pass catching, he could be right there in the WR category also.
    He has hands, he just doesn't concentrate, JMHO!
    He doesn't have the QB that pH and DJ have so he will get less opps to prove himself.
    He has to make the most of every opp he gets.


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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Funny thing, not sure I would put Ginn in with PH and Jackson.
    Lets not forget, he was almost out of a job last week.
    Relegated to just KO duties cause he kept dropping the ball.

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    The only reason Ginn got in there was because of his two KR for TDs on Sunday.
    If he concentrates on his pass catching, he could be right there in the WR category also.
    He has hands, he just doesn't concentrate, JMHO!
    He doesn't have the QB that pH and DJ have so he will get less opps to prove himself.
    He has to make the most of every opp he gets.

    So your telling me that the ole cliche' of "He should make the catch if it hit him in the hands" doesn't apply here?
    ;D

    Just kidding.
    Sure he doesn't have a QB that is gonna sling it around, but he has had alot of balls thrown his way that he has not caught.
    Being the primary target in a limited passing scheme should dictate that he shouldn't have a problem concentrating on his job, and that is to catch the ball.

    Long story short, he might come around, but at this point in his career I kindof doubt it.
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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Funny thing, not sure I would put Ginn in with PH and Jackson.
    Lets not forget, he was almost out of a job last week.
    Relegated to just KO duties cause he kept dropping the ball.

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    The only reason Ginn got in there was because of his two KR for TDs on Sunday.
    If he concentrates on his pass catching, he could be right there in the WR category also.
    He has hands, he just doesn't concentrate, JMHO!
    He doesn't have the QB that pH and DJ have so he will get less opps to prove himself.
    He has to make the most of every opp he gets.

    So your telling me that the ole cliche' of "He should make the catch if it hit him in the hands" doesn't apply here?
    ;D

    Just kidding.
    Sure he doesn't have a QB that is gonna sling it around, but he has had alot of balls thrown his way that he has not caught.
    Being the primary target in a limited passing scheme should dictate that he shouldn't have a problem concentrating on his job, and that is to catch the ball.

    Long story short, he might come around, but at this point in his career I kindof doubt it.
    Ya, I don't want to sit here and argue it.
    I just think he is no Troy Williamson.


    It is possible for a WR to improve his craft.
    He has taken his status for granted and hasn't fine tuned his skills.
    You may be right.


    Fact, they are all about the same size, they are young in their careers, have speed, and are explosive players.

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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

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    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Funny thing, not sure I would put Ginn in with PH and Jackson.
    Lets not forget, he was almost out of a job last week.
    Relegated to just KO duties cause he kept dropping the ball.

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    The only reason Ginn got in there was because of his two KR for TDs on Sunday.
    If he concentrates on his pass catching, he could be right there in the WR category also.
    He has hands, he just doesn't concentrate, JMHO!
    He doesn't have the QB that pH and DJ have so he will get less opps to prove himself.
    He has to make the most of every opp he gets.

    So your telling me that the ole cliche' of "He should make the catch if it hit him in the hands" doesn't apply here?
    ;D

    Just kidding.
    Sure he doesn't have a QB that is gonna sling it around, but he has had alot of balls thrown his way that he has not caught.
    Being the primary target in a limited passing scheme should dictate that he shouldn't have a problem concentrating on his job, and that is to catch the ball.

    Long story short, he might come around, but at this point in his career I kindof doubt it.
    Ya, I don't want to sit here and argue it.
    I just think he is no Troy Williamson.



    It is possible for a WR to improve his craft.
    He has taken his status for granted and hasn't fine tuned his skills.
    You may be right.


    [size=10pt]Fact, they are all about the same size, they are young in their careers, have speed, and are explosive players.[/size]
    I will give you that.


    My point is that I would not classify Ginn in the same catagory as the other two, especially PH.
    Still a bit early to tell with that cat, but damn if he isn't explosive in every aspect with no questions regarding things like catches.
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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "snowinapril" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Funny thing, not sure I would put Ginn in with PH and Jackson.
    Lets not forget, he was almost out of a job last week.
    Relegated to just KO duties cause he kept dropping the ball.

    http://ownersedge.fanball.com/nfl/player/6563/notes
    The only reason Ginn got in there was because of his two KR for TDs on Sunday.
    If he concentrates on his pass catching, he could be right there in the WR category also.
    He has hands, he just doesn't concentrate, JMHO!
    He doesn't have the QB that pH and DJ have so he will get less opps to prove himself.
    He has to make the most of every opp he gets.

    So your telling me that the ole cliche' of "He should make the catch if it hit him in the hands" doesn't apply here?
    ;D

    Just kidding.
    Sure he doesn't have a QB that is gonna sling it around, but he has had alot of balls thrown his way that he has not caught.
    Being the primary target in a limited passing scheme should dictate that he shouldn't have a problem concentrating on his job, and that is to catch the ball.

    Long story short, he might come around, but at this point in his career I kindof doubt it.
    Ya, I don't want to sit here and argue it.
    I just think he is no Troy Williamson.



    It is possible for a WR to improve his craft.
    He has taken his status for granted and hasn't fine tuned his skills.
    You may be right.


    [size=10pt]Fact, they are all about the same size, they are young in their careers, have speed, and are explosive players.[/size]
    I will give you that.


    My point is that I would not classify Ginn in the same catagory as the other two, especially PH.
    Still a bit early to tell with that cat, but gol 'darnit if he isn't explosive in every aspect with no questions regarding things like catches.
    That was another reason for adding Ginn.
    He is a third year player.
    DJ is second and pH is a rook.

    Heck, can I add Hester.
    Man they ruined him as a player.
    JMHO!
    Keep Berrian and let Hester concentrate on what he was doing best, Def and Returning kicks, INT, missed FGs, and punts for TDs.
    Coaching Blunder?

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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

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    These guys seem similar.
    Ginn is having difficulties catching the ball at times, but he is explosive when he gets the ball.
    All three guys made huge impacts in their games this past weekend.
    Gotta love pH!

    Take a look at the link to their profiles and look at their other stats:

    WR
    Jackson, DeSean

    REC 24
    YDS 501
    AVG 20.9
    TDS
    4

    Rush Avg 16.4, 1 TD
    WR
    Ginn, Ted







    REC 18
    YDS 211
    AVG 11.7
    TDS
    1

    KR Avg 34.9, 2 TDS
    WR
    Harvin, Percy




    REC 28
    YDS 369
    AVG 13.2
    TDS
    3

    KR Avg 30.7, 2 TDS
    WR
    Hester, Devin




    REC 35

    YDS 454

    AVG
    13.0
    TDS

    3

    Look @ stats link for his return 06 & 07

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    [size=12pt] DeSean Jackson[/size] | #10 | WR
    Philadelphia Eagles
    [size=12pt]Height: 5-10
    Weight: 175
    Age: 22
    [/size]
    Born: 12/1/1986 Long Beach , CA
    College: California
    Experience: 2nd season
    High School: Long Beach Polytechnic HS [CA]

    http://www.nfl.com/players/tedginnjr...e?id=GIN403290
    [size=12pt] Ted Ginn Jr.[/size] | #19 | WR
    Miami Dolphins
    [size=12pt]Height: 5-11
    Weight: 180
    Age: 24
    [/size]
    Born: 4/12/1985 Cleveland , OH
    College: Ohio State
    Experience: 3rd season
    High School: Glenville HS [Cleveland, OH]

    http://www.nfl.com/players/percyharv...e?id=HAR829482
    [size=12pt] Percy Harvin[/size] | #12 | WR
    Minnesota Vikings
    [size=12pt]Height: 5-11
    Weight: 184
    Age: 21
    [/size]
    Born: 5/28/1988 Chesapeake , VA
    College: Florida
    Experience: Rookie
    High School: Landstown HS [Virginia Beach, VA]

    http://www.nfl.com/players/devinhest...e?id=HES267217

    [size=12pt]Devin Hester [/size]| #23 | WR
    Chicago Bears | Official Team Site
    [size=12pt]Height: 5-11

    Weight: 190

    Age: 26
    [/size]
    Born: 11/4/1982 Riviera Beach , FL
    College: Miami (Fla.)
    Experience: 4th season
    High School: Suncoast HS [Riviera Beach, FL]

    2006 Draft for Hester....... 2nd round.... drafted after Daniel Manning.

    57th

    Chicago

    Devin Hester

    Cornerback

    Miami (Florida)
    Bump with Hester added!

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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

    Anyone want to comment on why Hester was converted, was he not that good of a DB?


    They were going to use his talents on offense instead of D?

    I looked for D stats and didn't see much listed on NFL.com.
    I thought he played more D.

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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

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    Anyone want to comment on why Hester was converted, was he not that good of a DB?


    They were going to use his talents on offense instead of D?

    I looked for D stats and didn't see much listed on NFL.com.
    I thought he played more D.
    Hester is a full-time WR now.

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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

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    Anyone want to comment on why Hester was converted, was he not that good of a DB?


    They were going to use his talents on offense instead of D?

    I looked for D stats and didn't see much listed on NFL.com.
    I thought he played more D.

    I believe he was not all that good in coverage

    And they wanted to get his explosivness more involved somehow.. So they made the conversion

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    Re: D Jack -Ginn -Harvin = Dynamic

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    Funny thing, not sure I would put Ginn in with PH and Jackson.
    Lets not forget, he was almost out of a job last week.
    Relegated to just KO duties cause he kept dropping the ball.

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    That's what I was thinking too captain

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