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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

    True that Luke

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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

    "Chazz" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Chazz" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    "Chazz" wrote:
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=47426.msg827164#msg827164 date=1220061514]
    [quote author=Chazz link=topic=47426.msg827156#msg827156 date=1220060135]
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=47426.msg827155#msg827155 date=1220059840]
    [quote author=NodakPaul link=topic=47426.msg827145#msg827145 date=1220058840]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=47426.msg827118#msg827118 date=1220052975]
    Pep will land somewhere. He is the best available back up
    No, he will get offers.
    He won't accept any of them though, because it will be for the Vet minimum.
    What is the vet minimum?

    What I do find a bit laughable is that people here insists he needs an agent. I'm not so sure about that.

    People here claim he sux, yet after that devastating knee injury & while still being crippled up with no guarantees of how he would perform once he healed, he still got a cool $8.00 mil for his 1 year stint in Miami. He also was able to get 3.20 mil from Oakland.

    His agent while he still had him only got him the following salaries in MN;

    2000: 1.34 mil
    2001: 1.40 mil
    2002: 0.97 mil
    2003: 12.44 mil
    2004: 1.04 mil
    2005: 7.04 mil

    That's an avg. salary of 4.03 mil per year when he was healthy, with an agent. Out of that salary, how much did his agent get? 10-15%? More? Now deduct that from the 4 mil.

    What do you have?

    In the 2 years after the injury, when I felt his career was over, he avg. 5.6 mil & never paid an agent.

    No matter how you do the math, Culpepper did better acting as his own agent, than he did when he had one.

    Ok...that is 2 years for himself. Now, after the next 4 years, lets add it up and see if your math still holds true.
    That wouldn't be even an apples to apples comparison after the major damage he suffered to his knee.

    Its just as fair as the camparison that you made. He got that money on past credentials, nothing more, nothing less. Now that those credentials no longer hold up, the league minimum is the best he can get.
    [/quote]

    Yes he did & he did better than his agent did. Now after those two years, it's apparent to the rest of the NFL that he will never regain the abilities he had before the injury.

    His career, as I stated in 2005, was over the day he suffered the injury.

    Miami took a chance that he might make it back, when it was proved he couldn't, Oakland was stupid enough to throw 3.2 mil his way.
    [/quote]

    That pretty well sums it up.
    [/quote]

    This sums it up.
    Fuck Daunte Culpepper!!!!!
    [/quote]

    My bad...I'll give it a try.....Fuck Daunte Culpepper!!!!!


    How's that?
    [/quote]

    That's pretty good.
    Try it this way.
    FUCK DAUNTE CULPEPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Much more satisfying.

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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

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    i would sign daunte today he is better than bollinger, booty,simms, holcomb, detmer or any other turd third string qb we have had or could get. and don't give me any crap about not being able to make the short/intermediate throws of the WCO either in '04 after moss got hurt it was all about hitting burleson/ campbell/ marcus robinson on slants,ins and curls and hitting the swing pass to bennet moore and williams. all you people bashing daunte are just sour grapes. i thought teams wanted to put together the best 53 man roster they could and daunte is still better than a lot of the qbs in the league he could even start for a handful of teams ie bears, niners were 2 of his former back up are competing fore a job.
    How about the fact he shunned the team becasue of his selfish nature.
    How about the fact he is not the same QB he once was (not that he was ever that terrific to begin when you look at his win - loss record).
    How about the fact he burned bridges with the head coach?
    He may be better than some of the crap out there.
    However, is he a good fit for this team?
    That would be a big NO.

    Culpepper would be great to have as a backup.
    I won't argue that.
    But he is not good for this team right now.

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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

    "lukeshkin" wrote:
    i would sign daunte today he is better than bollinger, booty,simms, holcomb, detmer or any other turd third string qb we have had or could get. and don't give me any crap about not being able to make the short/intermediate throws of the WCO either in '04 after moss got hurt it was all about hitting burleson/ campbell/ marcus robinson on slants,ins and curls and hitting the swing pass to bennet moore and williams. all you people bashing daunte are just sour grapes. i thought teams wanted to put together the best 53 man roster they could and daunte is still better than a lot of the qbs in the league he could even start for a handful of teams ie bears, niners were 2 of his former back up are competing fore a job.
    He is better but by being his own agent he isn't getting the same advice or being negotiating with a general manager as another quarterback out there. GM's will trash a player with an agent and the agent will fight back, but with Duante being his own agent teams are not going that normal route, I guess to keep it from becoming too personal and are just stating an offer.
    The extra money he made in the last two years is now coming back to haunt him now.
    It might be different in 3-4 weeks but if it isn’t he should give Jeff George a call and see if they have too much in common.

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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Chazz" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Chazz" wrote:
    "singersp" wrote:
    [quote author=Chazz link=topic=47426.msg827168#msg827168 date=1220061921]
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=47426.msg827164#msg827164 date=1220061514]
    [quote author=Chazz link=topic=47426.msg827156#msg827156 date=1220060135]
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=47426.msg827155#msg827155 date=1220059840]
    [quote author=NodakPaul link=topic=47426.msg827145#msg827145 date=1220058840]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=47426.msg827118#msg827118 date=1220052975]
    Pep will land somewhere. He is the best available back up
    No, he will get offers.
    He won't accept any of them though, because it will be for the Vet minimum.
    What is the vet minimum?

    What I do find a bit laughable is that people here insists he needs an agent. I'm not so sure about that.

    People here claim he sux, yet after that devastating knee injury & while still being crippled up with no guarantees of how he would perform once he healed, he still got a cool $8.00 mil for his 1 year stint in Miami. He also was able to get 3.20 mil from Oakland.

    His agent while he still had him only got him the following salaries in MN;

    2000: 1.34 mil
    2001: 1.40 mil
    2002: 0.97 mil
    2003: 12.44 mil
    2004: 1.04 mil
    2005: 7.04 mil

    That's an avg. salary of 4.03 mil per year when he was healthy, with an agent. Out of that salary, how much did his agent get? 10-15%? More? Now deduct that from the 4 mil.

    What do you have?

    In the 2 years after the injury, when I felt his career was over, he avg. 5.6 mil & never paid an agent.

    No matter how you do the math, Culpepper did better acting as his own agent, than he did when he had one.

    Ok...that is 2 years for himself. Now, after the next 4 years, lets add it up and see if your math still holds true.
    That wouldn't be even an apples to apples comparison after the major damage he suffered to his knee.

    Its just as fair as the camparison that you made. He got that money on past credentials, nothing more, nothing less. Now that those credentials no longer hold up, the league minimum is the best he can get.
    [/quote]

    Yes he did & he did better than his agent did. Now after those two years, it's apparent to the rest of the NFL that he will never regain the abilities he had before the injury.

    His career, as I stated in 2005, was over the day he suffered the injury.

    Miami took a chance that he might make it back, when it was proved he couldn't, Oakland was stupid enough to throw 3.2 mil his way.
    [/quote]

    That pretty well sums it up.
    [/quote]

    This sums it up.
    Fuck Daunte Culpepper!!!!!
    [/quote]

    My bad...I'll give it a try.....Fuck Daunte Culpepper!!!!!


    How's that?
    [/quote]

    That's pretty good.
    Try it this way.
    FUCK DAUNTE CULPEPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Much more satisfying.
    [/quote]


    FUCK DAUNTE CULPEPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That is satisfying. I like it.

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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

    Interesting read. He might or might not get another chance. But why did he not take the Steelers offer for the vet minimum? He is going to have to start from the bottom again with everything that has happened. He still doesn't really seem to realize that.

    Thanks Josdin00 for the sig!

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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

    "Chazz" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Chazz" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "Chazz" wrote:
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=47426.msg827176#msg827176 date=1220063049]
    [quote author=Chazz link=topic=47426.msg827168#msg827168 date=1220061921]
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=47426.msg827164#msg827164 date=1220061514]
    [quote author=Chazz link=topic=47426.msg827156#msg827156 date=1220060135]
    [quote author=singersp link=topic=47426.msg827155#msg827155 date=1220059840]
    [quote author=NodakPaul link=topic=47426.msg827145#msg827145 date=1220058840]
    [quote author=V4L link=topic=47426.msg827118#msg827118 date=1220052975]
    Pep will land somewhere. He is the best available back up
    No, he will get offers.
    He won't accept any of them though, because it will be for the Vet minimum.
    What is the vet minimum?

    What I do find a bit laughable is that people here insists he needs an agent. I'm not so sure about that.

    People here claim he sux, yet after that devastating knee injury & while still being crippled up with no guarantees of how he would perform once he healed, he still got a cool $8.00 mil for his 1 year stint in Miami. He also was able to get 3.20 mil from Oakland.

    His agent while he still had him only got him the following salaries in MN;

    2000: 1.34 mil
    2001: 1.40 mil
    2002: 0.97 mil
    2003: 12.44 mil
    2004: 1.04 mil
    2005: 7.04 mil

    That's an avg. salary of 4.03 mil per year when he was healthy, with an agent. Out of that salary, how much did his agent get? 10-15%? More? Now deduct that from the 4 mil.

    What do you have?

    In the 2 years after the injury, when I felt his career was over, he avg. 5.6 mil & never paid an agent.

    No matter how you do the math, Culpepper did better acting as his own agent, than he did when he had one.

    Ok...that is 2 years for himself. Now, after the next 4 years, lets add it up and see if your math still holds true.
    That wouldn't be even an apples to apples comparison after the major damage he suffered to his knee.

    Its just as fair as the camparison that you made. He got that money on past credentials, nothing more, nothing less. Now that those credentials no longer hold up, the league minimum is the best he can get.
    [/quote]

    Yes he did & he did better than his agent did. Now after those two years, it's apparent to the rest of the NFL that he will never regain the abilities he had before the injury.

    His career, as I stated in 2005, was over the day he suffered the injury.

    Miami took a chance that he might make it back, when it was proved he couldn't, Oakland was stupid enough to throw 3.2 mil his way.
    [/quote]

    That pretty well sums it up.
    [/quote]

    This sums it up.
    Fuck Daunte Culpepper!!!!!
    [/quote]

    My bad...I'll give it a try.....Fuck Daunte Culpepper!!!!!


    How's that?
    [/quote]

    That's pretty good.
    Try it this way.
    FUCK DAUNTE CULPEPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Much more satisfying.
    [/quote]


    FUCK DAUNTE CULPEPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That is satisfying. I like it.
    [/quote]

    Excellent!
    You learn quickly.
    FUCK DAUNTE CULPEPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

    "singersp" wrote:
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    ....What I do find a bit laughable is that people here insists he needs an agent. I'm not so sure about that.
    ....
    I find it laughable that you think he doesn't need one.
    Did you read his letter?
    It looks like an insecure little child wrote it.
    He looks like the pathetic loser that he is, at least with an agent he could save some face and not expose his idiocy to the masses.
    How so? Do you really think an agent is going to get him more than the league minimum?

    Some agents are good, but not THAT good.
    He should have had one all along.
    He obviously sounds like an idiot every time he opens his mouth, like a whining little pansy.
    Yes, at this juncture of his career he will be lucky to get a league minimum so he might as well be on his own....but, I still think he would be better off with an agent to help him look at the options.
    A good agent has more contacts and knows how to play more within the existing system.
    Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please. Mark Twain

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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

    "lukeshkin" wrote:
    i would sign daunte today he is better than bollinger, booty,simms, holcomb, detmer or any other turd third string qb we have had or could get. and don't give me any crap about not being able to make the short/intermediate throws of the WCO either in '04 after moss got hurt it was all about hitting burleson/ campbell/ marcus robinson on slants,ins and curls and hitting the swing pass to bennet moore and williams. all you people bashing daunte are just sour grapes. i thought teams wanted to put together the best 53 man roster they could and daunte is still better than a lot of the qbs in the league he could even start for a handful of teams ie bears, niners were 2 of his former back up are competing fore a job.
    No he's not.
    He's a head-case.


    Me bashing Daunte is due to Daunte's actions, not the sour grapes theory.
    I supported him until he went through sequence of events leading to his departure.
    I had all the facts documented in a thread that I can't find right now.
    His unprofessionalism after his injury was beyond pathetic.
    He deserves no respect and he is getting none.
    That was earned.
    If he is so much better, why is he sitting at home playing Xbox when the season starts one week from now?
    Well, besides having small-hands fever and a huge head, he is a moron.
    Ask the Phins or the Raiders how great he is.
    It's unfortunate that he was injured in Carolina, but, that whole scenario exposed his true character, an asshat that deserves as much respect as I give him...none.
    Fuck Daunte Culpepper.
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    Re: Culpepper's Letter to the NFL Community (as posted on PFT)

    "Prophet" wrote:
    "lukeshkin" wrote:
    i would sign daunte today he is better than bollinger, booty,simms, holcomb, detmer or any other turd third string qb we have had or could get. and don't give me any crap about not being able to make the short/intermediate throws of the WCO either in '04 after moss got hurt it was all about hitting burleson/ campbell/ marcus robinson on slants,ins and curls and hitting the swing pass to bennet moore and williams. all you people bashing daunte are just sour grapes. i thought teams wanted to put together the best 53 man roster they could and daunte is still better than a lot of the qbs in the league he could even start for a handful of teams ie bears, niners were 2 of his former back up are competing fore a job.
    No he's not.
    He's a head-case.


    Me bashing Daunte is due to Daunte's actions, not the sour grapes theory.
    I supported him until he went through sequence of events leading to his departure.
    I had all the facts documented in a thread that I can't find right now.
    His unprofessionalism after his injury was beyond pathetic.
    He deserves no respect and he is getting none.
    That was earned.
    If he is so much better, why is he sitting at home playing Xbox when the season starts one week from now?
    Well, besides having small-hands fever and a huge head, he is a moron.
    Ask the Phins or the Raiders how great he is.
    It's unfortunate that he was injured in Carolina, but, that whole scenario exposed his true character, an asshat that deserves as much respect as I give him...none.
    Fuck Daunte Culpepper.
    That's good Prophet. Try it this way. FUCK DAUNTE CULPEPPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    It feels so much better.
    Oh yeah.
    Excellent post.
    He earned to lose his respect by many fans and the league.
    He made his own bed and now he's sleeping in it.
    All day since he has no job.

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