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    I only have one thing left to say.
    Fuck Daunte Culpepper!

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    But will Daunte retire from being an asshat

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    Re: Culpepper's Latest Letter - "I retire." - From PFT

    "ejmat" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "Sajid28" wrote:
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=47583.msg830214#msg830214 date=1220554989]
    [quote author=Sajid28 link=topic=47583.msg830194#msg830194 date=1220553210]
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=47583.msg830174#msg830174 date=1220552732]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=47583.msg830165#msg830165 date=1220552414]
    Here's the situation.
    Everyone can throw stats all they want.
    However I don't see anyone throwing in the win-loss stat, 4th quarter come back stat, or overtime win stat.
    When the game was on the line he did not shine.

    That is why he is NOT an elite QB.
    He was a good QB with great athleticism.
    He never learned defenses and relied a lot on probowl calibur players surrounding him.
    Whereas Brady has always worked with average WRs his entire career until last year.
    Manning made his WRs better becasue of how well he knows the game.
    There is no comparing either of these QBs with Culpepper.

    Culpepper whined his way out of MN and he has paid for it since.
    He made his bed now he is lying in it (probably till 2pm everyday since he has no job).
    I liked Culpepper but I didn't like his antics when he emailed his way out of MN.
    He handled that without class and now everything is coming around to haunt him.
    He's like a little kid crying for attention.
    "I can't catch on with a team and it's everyone's fault except for my own."
    The HCs and the League Officers have treated me like pooh so now I am retiring."
    He is a whiny beeyatch!
    Got any stats to prove any of that?
    To say Culpepper couldn't read a defense is just silly, you don't put up those kind of numbers with out knowing what the defense is doing, even with Moss.
    without moss the guy couldnt read a defense better than a 5th grader.
    week 1 vs tampa 0tds , 2 ints. qb rating 49.2
    week 2 vs cincy 0tds, 5 ints, qb rating
    36.4
    week 3 vs. no 3td, 0 ints, 140 rating
    week 4 vs atl 1td, 2 ints, qb rating 74.4
    week 5 bye
    week 6 vs chi 0td, 2ints, qb rating 50.4
    week 7 2tds vs gb

    those are horrible stats. tarvaris cant even put up those stats even if he tried.
    You forgot the rest of the 2005 season.

    week 8 vs cinci 1td, 5int qb rating 56.4
    week 9 vs steelers 0td, 1int qb rating 63.3
    week 10 vs atlanta 1td, 1int, qb rating 84.4
    week 11 vsvikings 2td, 2int, qb rating 76.2
    week 12 vs philly 1td, 2int, qb rating 46.4
    week 13 vs chicago 0td, 2int, qb rating 52.2
    week 14 vs detroit 0td, 1 int, qb rating 67.9
    week 15 vs baltimore 0td, 2 int, qb rating 34.3
    week 16 vs chicago 0td, 4 int, qb rating 44.3
    week 17 vs seattle 1td, 1 int, qb rating 76.3
    total for 9 games 6td, 21ints. I guess Brett Favre can't read a defense either.
    like i said earlier.. the best even have bad games. peyton has bad games. but they bounce back and come back to the stellar form they were first recognized with. that is something DC never did. and you forgot to mention one more thing in ur *stats* favre may have thrown 29ints in 2005. but he also threw for 20 tds and almost 4,000 yards passing. i think he knows a thing or two about reading defenses if he can throw for 4000 yards passing
    If you look at Culpeppers 2005 number he had 1,536 yards and 6tds in the first 6 games(before being injured early in the 7th). That's 256 yards a game, so if he had played a full season that comes out to 4096yards and 16tds.
    [/quote]

    If my memory serves correct (I didn't look it up) didn't he have 3 of those TDs against NO?
    [/quote]



    Yes sir he did

    No picks as well

    140 QB rating
    [/quote]

    Thanks V4L.
    Therefore the imagined or forecasted stats that one mentioned with 16 TDs and over 4000 yards is somewhat skewed.
    He had one good game and it was against a team that earned the 2nd pick in the draft afterwards.
    Pep had some good times with the Vikes.
    But when he was down or needed to come through in the end he failed more often than not.
    I agree not everything was his fault in 2005 but he never helped himself by doing what he did with the Vikings and everything ever since.
    He made his own bed now he can lie in it.
    [/quote]
    It wasn't one game. His yardage in the 6 games he played was 233,236,300,250,237,280. The fact was that he was the only big time play maker on the offense at that point and was expected to carry them. If you want to take out the best and worst games we can do that. In the first 2 games of the season he turned the ball over ten times(8picks, 2fumbles lost, 0td), in the next 4 games he turned the ball over 5 times(4picks, 1fumble, 6tds).

    Also he did have 1 rushing td and 129 rushing yards. For a whole season that puts him at 4440 total yards, 19tds (and 40 turnovers).
    Compare that to what favre did. 3943 yards, 20tds, 36 turnovers.

    Brad johnsons numbers in 9 games he started in 2005:
    1746 total yards, 11tds, 7 turnovers
    Extracted to a 16 game season:
    3104 total yards, 20tds, 12ints.
    Not sure what that means, except numbers are fun. ;D




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    Re: Culpepper's Latest Letter - "I retire." - From PFT

    A lot of hate here for Daunte, but some love too.


    I liked watching him play in Minnesota and I wanted to see him do well when he left as well.
    Greatest QB ever?
    No.
    But I thought he played with a ton of heart and passion, and he was always exciting to watch.


    I'm also coming around to his decision to be his own agent.
    Basically, I think when he got hurt in 2005 he had the opportunity and the motivation to look over his affairs and try to understand his financial future.
    I'm pretty sure that's when he realized his agent had done a bad deal for him.
    He got rid of him.

    I can respect someone's desire to manage their own business after getting burned.
    It may be a lot of work, and they may make mistakes.
    But at the end of the day they're taking responsibility for their own affairs.

    Probably in part because he learned how to manage his own finances, it appears that he will be set for the rest of his life.
    He can play in the NFL if he wants to.
    He doesn't have to if the right opportunity isn't there.
    How many people on these boards could quit their job tomorrow and be set financially for life?
    How many of those people are as young as Daunte?
    How many NFL players could even do that?

    So I think Daunte will be fine.
    I don't think he's a bad person.
    He's got flaws like the rest of us.
    He also had a very good career in the NFL, and he can certainly be proud of it.
    Personally, I hope he changes his mind and manages to make it back.
    When the age of the Vikings came to a close, they must have sensed it. Probably, they gathered together one evening, slapped each other on the back and said, "Hey, good job." - Jack Handey [Deep Thoughts]

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    Re: Culpepper's Latest Letter - "I retire." - From PFT

    "Overlord" wrote:
    A lot of hate here for Daunte, but some love too.


    I liked watching him play in Minnesota and I wanted to see him do well when he left as well.
    Greatest QB ever?
    No.
    But I thought he played with a ton of heart and passion, and he was always exciting to watch.


    I'm also coming around to his decision to be his own agent.
    Basically, I think when he got hurt in 2005 he had the opportunity and the motivation to look over his affairs and try to understand his financial future.
    I'm pretty sure that's when he realized his agent had done a bad deal for him.
    He got rid of him.

    I can respect someone's desire to manage their own business after getting burned.
    It may be a lot of work, and they may make mistakes.
    But at the end of the day they're taking responsibility for their own affairs.

    Probably in part because he learned how to manage his own finances, it appears that he will be set for the rest of his life.
    He can play in the NFL if he wants to.
    He doesn't have to if the right opportunity isn't there.
    How many people on these boards could quit their job tomorrow and be set financially for life?
    How many of those people are as young as Daunte?
    How many NFL players could even do that?

    So I think Daunte will be fine.
    I don't think he's a bad person.
    He's got flaws like the rest of us.
    He also had a very good career in the NFL, and he can certainly be proud of it.
    Personally, I hope he changes his mind and manages to make it back.

    Very nice post

    This is how I feel as well

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    Re: Culpepper's Latest Letter - "I retire." - From PFT

    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "V4L" wrote:
    "ejmat" wrote:
    "jmcdon00" wrote:
    [quote author=Sajid28 link=topic=47583.msg830277#msg830277 date=1220560103]
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=47583.msg830214#msg830214 date=1220554989]
    [quote author=Sajid28 link=topic=47583.msg830194#msg830194 date=1220553210]
    [quote author=jmcdon00 link=topic=47583.msg830174#msg830174 date=1220552732]
    [quote author=ejmat link=topic=47583.msg830165#msg830165 date=1220552414]
    Here's the situation.
    Everyone can throw stats all they want.
    However I don't see anyone throwing in the win-loss stat, 4th quarter come back stat, or overtime win stat.
    When the game was on the line he did not shine.

    That is why he is NOT an elite QB.
    He was a good QB with great athleticism.
    He never learned defenses and relied a lot on probowl calibur players surrounding him.
    Whereas Brady has always worked with average WRs his entire career until last year.
    Manning made his WRs better becasue of how well he knows the game.
    There is no comparing either of these QBs with Culpepper.

    Culpepper whined his way out of MN and he has paid for it since.
    He made his bed now he is lying in it (probably till 2pm everyday since he has no job).
    I liked Culpepper but I didn't like his antics when he emailed his way out of MN.
    He handled that without class and now everything is coming around to haunt him.
    He's like a little kid crying for attention.
    "I can't catch on with a team and it's everyone's fault except for my own."
    The HCs and the League Officers have treated me like pooh so now I am retiring."
    He is a whiny beeyatch!
    Got any stats to prove any of that?
    To say Culpepper couldn't read a defense is just silly, you don't put up those kind of numbers with out knowing what the defense is doing, even with Moss.
    without moss the guy couldnt read a defense better than a 5th grader.
    week 1 vs tampa 0tds , 2 ints. qb rating 49.2
    week 2 vs cincy 0tds, 5 ints, qb rating
    36.4
    week 3 vs. no 3td, 0 ints, 140 rating
    week 4 vs atl 1td, 2 ints, qb rating 74.4
    week 5 bye
    week 6 vs chi 0td, 2ints, qb rating 50.4
    week 7 2tds vs gb

    those are horrible stats. tarvaris cant even put up those stats even if he tried.
    You forgot the rest of the 2005 season.

    week 8 vs cinci 1td, 5int qb rating 56.4
    week 9 vs steelers 0td, 1int qb rating 63.3
    week 10 vs atlanta 1td, 1int, qb rating 84.4
    week 11 vsvikings 2td, 2int, qb rating 76.2
    week 12 vs philly 1td, 2int, qb rating 46.4
    week 13 vs chicago 0td, 2int, qb rating 52.2
    week 14 vs detroit 0td, 1 int, qb rating 67.9
    week 15 vs baltimore 0td, 2 int, qb rating 34.3
    week 16 vs chicago 0td, 4 int, qb rating 44.3
    week 17 vs seattle 1td, 1 int, qb rating 76.3
    total for 9 games 6td, 21ints. I guess Brett Favre can't read a defense either.
    like i said earlier.. the best even have bad games. peyton has bad games. but they bounce back and come back to the stellar form they were first recognized with. that is something DC never did. and you forgot to mention one more thing in ur *stats* favre may have thrown 29ints in 2005. but he also threw for 20 tds and almost 4,000 yards passing. i think he knows a thing or two about reading defenses if he can throw for 4000 yards passing
    If you look at Culpeppers 2005 number he had 1,536 yards and 6tds in the first 6 games(before being injured early in the 7th). That's 256 yards a game, so if he had played a full season that comes out to 4096yards and 16tds.
    [/quote]

    If my memory serves correct (I didn't look it up) didn't he have 3 of those TDs against NO?
    [/quote]



    Yes sir he did

    No picks as well

    140 QB rating
    [/quote]

    Thanks V4L.
    Therefore the imagined or forecasted stats that one mentioned with 16 TDs and over 4000 yards is somewhat skewed.
    He had one good game and it was against a team that earned the 2nd pick in the draft afterwards.
    Pep had some good times with the Vikes.
    But when he was down or needed to come through in the end he failed more often than not.
    I agree not everything was his fault in 2005 but he never helped himself by doing what he did with the Vikings and everything ever since.
    He made his own bed now he can lie in it.
    [/quote]
    It wasn't one game. His yardage in the 6 games he played was 233,236,300,250,237,280. The fact was that he was the only big time play maker on the offense at that point and was expected to carry them. If you want to take out the best and worst games we can do that. In the first 2 games of the season he turned the ball over ten times(8picks, 2fumbles lost, 0td), in the next 4 games he turned the ball over 5 times(4picks, 1fumble, 6tds).

    Also he did have 1 rushing td and 129 rushing yards. For a whole season that puts him at 4440 total yards, 19tds (and 40 turnovers).
    Compare that to what favre did. 3943 yards, 20tds, 36 turnovers.

    Brad johnsons numbers in 9 games he started in 2005:
    1746 total yards, 11tds, 7 turnovers
    Extracted to a 16 game season:
    3104 total yards, 20tds, 12ints.
    Not sure what that means, except numbers are fun. ;D




    [/quote]

    Numbers are fun indeed.
    I for one, don't go by stats alone.
    As you know stats can be very misleading.
    Your example above can confirm that.
    I think 2005 was the worst year Pep ever had.
    He was very consistent excpet for the TDs.
    I can't blame everything on him.
    Our OL sucked that year.
    Our WRs dropped too many passes.
    Pep's main problems were that he couldn't hold onto the rock when he was hit.
    At times he also held onto the ball too long.
    On top of that he never was able to spur a comeback and shine late in the game.
    I do remember 1 comeback against the Pack but it's not like he did a whole lot on the final drive.
    He moved the ball about 30 yeards if my memory serves correct for the game winning FG.
    Although he did bring us back from a 17-0 deficit (again if my memory serves correct).


    I used to like Pep a lot.
    I bought his jerseys, memerabilia, etc...
    However, after he was hurt he realized his contract wasn't as good as he thought it was.
    Let's remember he signed the contract and received a bunch of money up front.
    He did not have a great season at all and he had an injury in which no one would predict how well
    he would be able to comeback.
    That in itself would tell me to shut my mouth and play football to prove everyone wrong.
    He didn't do that.
    He was defiant to the new HC.
    He refused to try and learn the new offense being implemented.
    He publically tried to call his FO out to the media.
    He was a good QB but not elite.
    He had the capabilities to be elite but becasue he was unable to shine in most crucial times he never became the QB he could have been.
    Johnson had the same team around him when he took over.
    The difference was Johnson didn't turn the ball over like Pep.
    Johnson could get hit and hang on to the ball better than Pep.
    Johnson had the patience to manage the game offensively in which Pep was never able to do.

    These are my reasons of why Pep can go lay in the bed he made.
    I have very little sympathy for a man that causes his own destruction and then expects the league officials to get him out of it.
    Makes no sense to me.

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    I liked Dainty Fumblechoker.









    Too bad his agent sucked.

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    He deserves what he is getting. Arrogant, foolish AHOLE.
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    Who else thinks Daunte's rise and collapse is borderline Vanilla Ice-ish?

    Next thing we know he will be on Celebrity Fit Club or the Surreal Life.
    :P
    Skol!
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    "NeoVikesTX" wrote:
    Who else thinks Daunte's rise and collapse is borderline Vanilla Ice-ish?

    Next thing we know he will be on Celebrity Fit Club or the Surreal Life.

    :P

    HAHA!!

    Very simular I would say

    He went from having big name rappers wearing his jerseys on music videos to fans burning his jerseys

    It is very sad

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