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    A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    I was talking to someone about Culpepper, about when he was here, and after he left.

    I'd say, the #1 reason for his sudden decline, was not the trade of moss, but rather the departure of Linehan.
    He know how to call plays that worked for him.
    THey made a good group.
    You might notice he had his best season ever while Moss was sitting on the sideline nursing a torn hammy.


    Anyway, being in Detroit, He now has a big, strong, fast receiver who he can heave it up to in Calvin Johnson.
    He also has his old Coordinator Back, in Linehan.
    Do you think thats enough that he could win Comeback Player of the year?
    It will rely also on the whole team upping their level of play, but they had an alright draft, got some good players, IMO, could win over 5 games this season.


    Any thoughts?
    And lets please try not to make this a pep bashing thread.
    Leave your personal feelings about him out of this.

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    Re: A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    I was talking to someone about Culpepper, about when he was here, and after he left.

    I'd say, the #1 reason for his sudden decline, was not the trade of moss, but rather the departure of Linehan.
    He know how to call plays that worked for him.
    THey made a good group.
    You might notice he had his best season ever while Moss was sitting on the sideline nursing a torn hammy.


    Anyway, being in Detroit, He now has a big, strong, fast receiver who he can heave it up to in Calvin Johnson.
    He also has his old Coordinator Back, in Linehan.
    Do you think thats enough that he could win Comeback Player of the year?
    It will rely also on the whole team upping their level of play, but they had an alright draft, got some good players, IMO, could win over 5 games this season.


    Any thoughts?
    And lets please try not to make this a pep bashing thread.
    Leave your personal feelings about him out of this.

    I think his downfall was his knee. He was a solid, mobile qb. Obviously without decent knees, your mobility is severly limited.
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    Re: A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    I think the loss of Moss (while he was nursing his hammy that year he still managed 13 TDs and played in 13 games) and the loss of Linehan contributed some. But all in all I think that the knee really destroyed him.
    He got hurt in a bad way, then saw the team rally behind another QB and his psyche went in the toilet.
    I personally do not think he will be successful in Detroit this year and don't think the Lions will be doing well enough to keep Stafford off of the field all season.
    If Stafford does not start the season as the No. 1 QB ... he will be it by the midway point I think.

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    Re: A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    Culpepper was playing like garbage before he hurt his knee though.
    Remember, he did it halfway through the 05 season, prior to that he put up 6TD and 12 INT in 7 games.

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    Re: A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    Culpepper was playing like garbage before he hurt his knee though.
    Remember, he did it halfway through the 05 season, prior to that he put up 6TD and 12 INT in 7 games.
    Our O-line was shit that year for the first half of the season.

    We lost a good chunk of quality on that line with the retirement of Dixon & loss of Birk

    Birk was out for the entire season & they were constantly shifting the line around & trying to find a center that would work. In those 7 games Fowler, Goldgerg & Withrow all tried their hand at playing center & there was even talk of enticing Dixon back out of retirement.

    With that said, I sure as hell hope that Sullivan pans out & we don't go thru that "finding a center" fiasco again.

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    Re: A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    fumblepepper + linei!! will help Detroit more then fumblepepper alone..


    but..just cause he's got his OC back.. doesn't mean he has his swagger.. game body... or.. i don' tcare if i get hit attitude..

    he could have
    been soooo good... now watch him fall soooo hard

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    Re: A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    I was talking to someone about Culpepper, about when he was here, and after he left.

    I'd say, the #1 reason for his sudden decline, was not the trade of moss, but rather the departure of Linehan.
    He know how to call plays that worked for him.
    THey made a good group.
    You might notice he had his best season ever while Moss was sitting on the sideline nursing a torn hammy.


    Anyway, being in Detroit, He now has a big, strong, fast receiver who he can heave it up to in Calvin Johnson.
    He also has his old Coordinator Back, in Linehan.
    Do you think thats enough that he could win Comeback Player of the year?
    It will rely also on the whole team upping their level of play, but they had an alright draft, got some good players, IMO, could win over 5 games this season.


    Any thoughts?
    And lets please try not to make this a pep bashing thread.
    Leave your personal feelings about him out of this.
    I am one that has bashed Pep from the offseason after his injury.
    Before the trade talks even started I thught it would be a good time.
    The thing with Pep is he was used to being a mobile QB.
    Due to his injury he was unable to play in that same manner.
    Hence the reason I believe his career declined.
    I agree his line the year he got hurt was terrible and a main reason why he was having such a bad year.

    All that being said I do believe Pep may make somewhat of a comeback this year.
    He has had time to understand he is not the same guy.
    If he can start working on being mainly a pocket passer I think he will have a decent year.
    He has a decent RB and a great WR.
    They had several key pick ups this year that will make that team better.
    I hope I am wrong and he continues to stink but I don't think he will be that bad this year.

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    Re: A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    "i_bleed_purple" wrote:
    I was talking to someone about Culpepper, about when he was here, and after he left.

    I'd say, the #1 reason for his sudden decline, was not the trade of moss, but rather the departure of Linehan.
    He know how to call plays that worked for him.
    THey made a good group.
    You might notice he had his best season ever while Moss was sitting on the sideline nursing a torn hammy.


    Anyway, being in Detroit, He now has a big, strong, fast receiver who he can heave it up to in Calvin Johnson.
    He also has his old Coordinator Back, in Linehan.
    Do you think thats enough that he could win Comeback Player of the year?
    It will rely also on the whole team upping their level of play, but they had an alright draft, got some good players, IMO, could win over 5 games this season.


    Any thoughts?
    And lets please try not to make this a pep bashing thread.
    Leave your personal feelings about him out of this.
    There is no doubt that he has some raw and somewhat gleened skill.
    The fact that he is a headcase makes it difficult for him to advance much more in his career, that coupled with his knee and his small-hand syndrome.

    Personally, I would give him more of a chance than the whizzinator to make comeback player of the year.
    I would be surprised if he does much though.
    Linehan had a questionable time as HC for St. Louis and maybe is back into his realm in Detroit as the OC.


    The comeback player of the year is a relatively small pool because that implies that they were good at some point in time and have sucked recently.
    Culpepper fits that mold and so does Favre.
    Between the two I would put my money on Favre if he comes back.
    Considering some of the other options I would easily put Larry "huggies" Johnson in the mix.

    Bottom-line, my odds put Culpepper way down the list for this subjective title.
    I just don't see small hands making a big splash with or without Linehan.
    However, I do look forward to Jared Allen using Culpepper's face to wipe the dingleberries from his ass.
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    Re: A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    LOL!
    Prophet, you're the best!


    However, I do look forward to Jared Allen using Culpepper's face to wipe the dingleberries from his jiggly butt.
    I see DET making improvements, but I don't think it will be enough in year 1.
    There was too much wrong last year, even though they did play most games close, but CPep was there, and managed only 24th in passing offense.
    Biggest ??s being the OL once again...52 sacks allowed, good for 2nd worst in the league, and not much done to fix it...couple of old injured guys on 1 year deals.
    They've added some decent WRs around Calvin with Curry's speed, and Bryant Johnson's size, and Linehan will find ways to use them, but I also think our DL, the Pack's new 3-4, and probably the bores too will have their way with the Lion's line.
    Control the line, control the time, and give your D a chance to shine!!

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    Re: A crazy thought I had about Culpepper

    I have a feeling that my guy Daunte will be getting his roll on a grip vs. the Vikes but only if Favre signs, he always seemed to do good against him (the playoff game, the game that ended with a 56 yard field goal by Paul Edinger to name a few). C. Johnson can catch jump balls just like Moss did a few years back, Daunte will have no problems. Plus, Linehan knows how to coach him very well. Lions win the division.

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