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    Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    This is big news....I'm surprised it hasn't been posted yet.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4794591.html

    May 10, 2007, 9:23PM
    [size=12pt]Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute [/size]
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    NEW YORK — Comcast Corp., the nation's largest cable television operator, can distribute the NFL Network as niche programming instead of as part of a bigger digital package with many more viewers, a judge has ruled, potentially costing the league millions of dollars a month in revenue.

    The NFL owns the network, which broadcasts live out-of-market games and also carries original professional football programming.

    The NFL sued in October after Comcast notified the league that it had decided to put the network on a sports tier with about 750,000 viewers, moving it from a digital tier seen by more than 7 million of its 24 million cable customers. A tier carries a specific type of programming and is available to customers at an additional price over the cost of basic programming.

    The NFL opposed the switch because under an agreement between the two companies, Comcast had to pay the league 55 cents per subscriber each month. With the loss of viewers, the NFL would earn significantly less money.

    It was unclear if the NFL Network would appeal Manhattan state Supreme Court Justice Bernard J. Fried's May 4 ruling, which was made public Thursday. A telephone message left with the network's lawyer was not immediately returned.

    Comcast said it made the move because it didn't want to charge customers the extra money for the NFL programming they might not want in the digital tier.

    "We bargained explicitly for the right to place the NFL Network on a sports tier because it is the best and fairest solution for all our customers," David L. Cohen, executive vice president of Comcast, said in a statement Thursday. "This decision means that our customers who are NFL fans will be able to watch the NFL Network without burdening those who are not NFL fans with extra costs."

    Comcast said it intends to move the NFL Network to a sports tier for the 2007 season, allowing customers who subscribe to view eight additional live out-of-market NFL games.
    I read elsewhere that the NFL is already planning to appeal.
    So this will continue for a few months, for sure.
    But I think this is big news for folks like myself who have a cable company (Charter, in my case) who do not currently carry NFLN.

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    Re: Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    I still see valid points to both sides of the argument.
    I don't see NFLN as any more of a niche programming than ESPN is, but at the same time the price per subscriber was pretty high.
    ESPN is in the same range too, but they also supply several channels in their package.

    I think it would have made more sense for Comcast to put it in the general programing, and NFLN lower the subscribers price.
    Then they both would have come out ahead...
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    Re: Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    "NodakPaul" wrote:
    I still see valid points to both sides of the argument.
    I don't see NFLN as any more of a niche programming than ESPN is, but at the same time the price per subscriber was pretty high.
    ESPN is in the same range too, but they also supply several channels in their package.
    ESPN also provides programming for:

    * NFL

    * NCAA sports of all kinds

    * MLB

    * NBA

    * NASCAR

    * Golf

    * Tennis

    * Soccer

    * Poker

    * World's Strongest Man

    * etc.

    NFLN does:

    * Professional American Football

    I call that niche.
    Hell, even the frigging GOLF channel covers different varieties of golf - and now has early-rounds of the PGA.

    I think it would have made more sense for Comcast to put it in the general programing, and NFLN lower the subscribers price.
    Then they both would have come out ahead...
    The subscriber price is not the issue, IMHO.
    It's the NFL dictating that ALL customers have to get it and pay for it, even if they don't want it.
    That's what I don't like.

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    Re: Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    Comcast didn't want to be held hostage to paying the .55 fee for the NFLN for their entire subscriber base.
    The people that want the channel will now be complainers that they have to pay extra for it now.
    At least the Comcast subscribers have a choice compared to the Charter subscribers.

    The only thing that is significant would be if Comcast can get them to lower the amount per subscriber so they can see it viable to offer to all subscribers in the basic packaging.
    **NFLN really pissed off the cable companies when they tried to knife them over the price.
    55 cents, is lower than the price I saw last year, I though it was closer to 1 dollar per subscriber.
    But anyways, Comcast is striking back.
    NFLN wants to be a household channel but they are charging more than the cable company see worth paying for to put in every household.**

    Qwest, a local telecom provider, offers Direct TV!

    I am not sure if it is offered in all areas.

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    Re: Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    Yes they do.......offer DTV for MN.

    http://www.qwest.com/residential/products/tv/index_other.html

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    Re: Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    Looks like their basic package, 140 channels, contains NFLN

    http://www.directv.com/see/pdf/chnllineup.pdf

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    Re: Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    Dish network also had NFLN in their basic programing package, and NFLNHD in their basic HD package.
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    Re: Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    "snowinapril" wrote:
    Looks like their basic package, 140 channels, contains NFLN

    http://www.directv.com/see/pdf/chnllineup.pdf
    I don't want Qwest - DSL bites monkey balls, IMHO.

    I don't want a dish - I like cable.

    My CHOICE is cable.
    I choose to have HBO, Skinimax, HD-programming and the sports tier.
    I have no CHOICE in the NFLN matter.

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    Re: Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    I belong to a large number of folks in the S. Minneapolis area that is not allowed roof access to put up a dish. I have no line of sight to the satelite from my window.

    I have NO choice.

    I can't get NFLN even if I was willing to switch.

    That is a shame and a monopoly.

    And it pisses me off.
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    Re: Comcast Wins in NFL Network Dispute

    Everyone has choices, some of them are just not as easy to make as others. LOL!

    Sucks to be you guys.

    Try following your team(s) from out of state.

    $200 for NFL games
    $200 for NBA games

    Both my choices! LOL!

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