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    Collective Bargaining Agreement

    Here's a quote from the NEF Commissioner recently:
    The current Contract Bargaining Agreement is due to expire after the 2007 season, but calls for an uncapped year in '07. Negotiations to extend the agreement, and avoid an uncapped season, have been going on for more than a year.
    Negotations, as most of you know, have not been going well. Both sides are starting to "harden" their positions.
    So here's the question, if there is no cap for teams in 2007, what are the consequences? Which team is the wealthiest and can buy the best players?
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    Re: Collective Bargaining Agreement

    Maybe for a season or so, but once a new deal gets done, they'll be cutting some of those high priced players to get under the cap again.

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    Re: Collective Bargaining Agreement

    Yeah...it would end up like the Yankees in baseball. The wealthiest team could sign whoever they wanted as long as they had the capital to do so. I doubt it would get THAT out of hand though, considering the cap would be put into affect the next year and things would go to hell in a hand basket. With that said, there isn't much that would prevent a team from signing a crap load of guys to really expensive 1 year deals.

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    Re: Collective Bargaining Agreement

    uhh the horrible CBA talks. lets hope the nfl can sign it quick unlike the nhl
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    Re: Collective Bargaining Agreement

    "ltrey33" wrote:
    Yeah...it would end up like the Yankees in baseball. The wealthiest team could sign whoever they wanted as long as they had the capital to do so. I doubt it would get THAT out of hand though, considering the cap would be put into affect the next year and things would go to hell in a hand basket. With that said, there isn't much that would prevent a team from signing a crap load of guys to really expensive 1 year deals.
    yeah and that would suck big time and mess everything up. then you'd have some team like the browns or cardinals try to buy a bunch of players for a year or two to buy a championship. im sure wilf would take advantage of it though.
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    Re: Collective Bargaining Agreement

    Bringing this back!

    This could lead to problems. The hard Deadline is next week and it doesn't look like the NFL and the Union is anywhere close.

    Biggest problem, contracts would be prorated over 4 years instead of 7. This causes the cap number to go up.

    The teams like us will be in the best position because we are well under the cap. We(and AZ) would feel it the least.

    What I don't understand is if the CBA doesn't get done, then there is no cap??? If there is no cap, why all the talk about the numbers inflating the cap. I will have to do more research.

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    Re: Collective Bargaining Agreement

    If it gets ironed out b4 the deadline, no possible strike in 2008.

    If it doesn't get ironed out by March 2nd, then there is a possibility of a strike in 2008.

    Take it for what it is worth. Basically they will go through a salary cap year this year, without one next year, and then in 2008 it is unclear to me if the owners would lock out the players with out an agrement on the CBA or if the players would actually strike but it doesn't sound good right now.

    I got the feeling that the NFL TA was using a scare tactic. Eisen kept feeding Schefter lob balls and the scare began. Apparently the NFL was thinking they would meet with Upshaw all weekend, but he plans on leaving today. Probably be a lot more on it leading up to the 2nd of March.

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    Re: Collective Bargaining Agreement

    "ltrey33" wrote:
    Yeah...it would end up like the Yankees in baseball. The wealthiest team could sign whoever they wanted as long as they had the capital to do so. I doubt it would get THAT out of hand though, considering the cap would be put into affect the next year and things would go to hell in a hand basket. With that said, there isn't much that would prevent a team from signing a crap load of guys to really expensive 1 year deals.
    actually they have stated on espn that if there is no cap in 07, it is never coming back.


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    Re: Collective Bargaining Agreement

    Here's the latest on ESPN.com:

    Upshaw tells agents to prepare for uncapped '07
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    NFL Players Association executive director Gene Upshaw told a seminar of agents Friday morning to prepare for a 2006 season without a collective bargaining extension, setting up an uncapped year in 2007.

    "March 3 will be the beginning of a new league year and we are just not there yet," Upshaw said. "I'm taking the position now that it won't get done."

    No negotiating sessions are scheduled although Upshaw said he is willing to talk. He told agents the issues are so far apart that there is virtually no way a deal could be set before next Thursday, the eve of the start of free agency. Under no circumstance, Upshaw said, will the union agree to delay the start of free agency to accommodate a deal.

    Three major issues were cited by Upshaw as the reason for no collective bargaining agreement extension.

    • Neither side can agree on the percentage of total revenues that will go to the players. Upshaw wouldn't elaborate on where the numbers were in the negotiations, but he has publicly said he wants a percentage number in the sixties. Reportedly, the sides are four percent apart but that number wasn't discussed by Upshaw.

    "We want to have a higher percentage," Upshaw said. "We want more dollars to come into the system."

    How significant is the percentage differential?

    Upshaw said each percentage point is worth $2 million of cap room per team early in any CBA agreement, $2.5 million in the middle and $2.9 million in the end.

    • The NFLPA won't agree to any type of CBA extension that doesn't have a new revenue sharing plan in the future. The differences between the high and lower revenue sharing teams have grown as much as $100 million dollars. The league owners aren't close on any revenue sharing deal among themselves, and Upshaw considers that something the union would never accept in a new deal without revised revenue sharing.

    • Upshaw's third difference is the league's "G-3" program in which money is loaned to teams by the league to finance new stadium construction. The union has to sign off on any "G-3" plan because it comes out of the gross revenue pool. Upshaw is asking for a "flip tax" in which the union gets a return on the investment. The NFLPA hasn't signed off on new stadium "G-3" deals for the Cowboys, Colts and Giants.

    With nothing on the horizon that gives him optimism of any breakthroughs, Upshaw set a soft deadline of Friday for getting a CBA extension. According to him, the sides are so far apart that a six-year extension would be hard to settle before the hard deadline of March 3.

    To give agents guidance, Upshaw told the room that the 2006 cap should be between $92 million and $95 million but he thinks the realistic number will be $96 million. That number should be settled within in the next day or so. He said the benefits package paid by teams is $13.8 million.

    Though he will be available by phone, Upshaw planned to leave Indianapolis on Friday afternoon and return to Washington, D.C.

    "I'm leaving," Upshaw said. "We're running out of time. You might as well prepare as if we are heading for an upcapped year."


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    I'm starting to take the opinion that Upshaw isn't doing his job properly. He's imposed a false deadline for no reason and is only making it harder by not postponing Free Agency for a month. However I do not lay the blame entirely at his door. The Billionaire Boys Club needs to sort themselves out or they'll screw up big time.

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