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    We should move BWill to strong safety...he is built like a safety, he hits like a safety...maybe he should be a safety?

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    Re: Brian Williams

    Brian Williams is still a pretty good overall corner.

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    I'm reserving my judgment untill we get new coaches. Who knows what potential this team holds.

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    Brian Williams is still a pretty good overall corner.
    No...is no team in the NFL that would start him...and he wouldn't be a nickel back on a lot of teams...that's not pretty good...he's a strong run supporting corner that can't cover very well and misses too many tackles...he's got some physical gifts, and he shows flashes, but to say he's a pretty good overall corner is to deny any sort of reality.

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    "BlackJosh" wrote:
    Brian Williams is still a pretty good overall corner.
    No...is no team in the NFL that would start him...and he wouldn't be a nickel back on a lot of teams...that's not pretty good...he's a strong run supporting corner that can't cover very well and misses too many tackles...he's got some physical gifts, and he shows flashes, but to say he's a pretty good overall corner is to deny any sort of reality.
    He's just as good as Smoot LMAO!

    This is the same washed up argument given every year. He can't cover.
    He has been playing under one of THE WORST Defensive schemes in the ENTIRE NFL. He still makes plays. Glad to have him on the team. For those of you suggesting the sun shines on a dogs ass someday, he has been doing this ever since he was in the purple and gold.

    LMAO! I LOVE IT BABY! I LOVE IT! Nothing will ever be enough for some clowns. Smoot gets beat deep, Antoine gets burned ALL YEAR, and "Oh it's the scheme, oh its his hemroids LMAO, keep talking people.

    and no the 3-4 is horrible. You cripple Kevin Williams, and the majority of Johnstones sacks have come from the 4-3 even this year. No doubt he could get a sack or two from a quasi 3-4 or even from a standing position but it hinders his ability over all and makes our line weaker, as well as our pass defense. It's horrible.

    In 2003 he lead our team in passes defended. He had the most knock downs. The last two years he has compiled over 70 tackles a season, he forced almost two fumbles a year.

    If you are saying no one would start him in the NFL you are smoking crack. If you can look at the lack of depth at CB in the NFL and all the teams with WORSE starting CB's then Brian Williams and still spout that shit, it pretty much makes anything else you have to say Moot to me.

    It's the same old tired ass, hypocritical BS.

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    Just the mere fact that Williams didn't have the opportunity to make a lot of tackles on balls thrown to his receiver, because there wasn't many, says a lot about how good his coverage was.

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    and no the 3-4 is horrible. You cripple Kevin Williams, and the majority of Johnstones sacks have come from the 4-3 even this year. No doubt he could get a sack or two from a quasi 3-4 or even from a standing position but it hinders his ability over all and makes our line weaker, as well as our pass defense. It's horrible.
    I'm not even going to address the 3-4 comments because I said myself the 3-4 was not the answer (neither is 4-3...the answer is to commit to an idea in training camp and get players for those formations, which we have not...) but the thing is, it in no way makes our pass defense any worse...in fact it puts another coverage guy in (depending on what play is being called) and is renowned for it's ability to shut down west coast offenses (you need linebackers or nickelbacks that can play in space to do that as well). And it's not like Kevin Williams has been any better out of a 4-3 alignment this year (he's actually the type of athlete that would be an explosive 3-4 end...a big strong fast defensive tackle). But the other point is...Brian Williams has not been a player maker and to say that is to not be watching the games. He has limited responsibilities, going up against the no 3 reciever at the very most, usually with some sort of safety help in the middle of the field, yet he can't cover anyone...he's always out of place and for someone who is strong and should tackle well, he miss way too many in space. To say he's as a good a cover corner as smoot is ridiculous. Smoot is highly overrated, don't get me wrong, but I trust smoot to go out there and cover a guy (not shut him down...no corner in any sort of modern offense can go out and completely shut down an opponent's best reciever all alone...it just won't happen) and with games like he had against Joe Horn and such, he's proven himself...and Winfield actually makes tackles.

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    Yeah well the fact of the matter is the 3-4 is damn near extinct because it is inferior. There are too many holes to attack in it. It does hurt our pass defense. How many sacks do we have coming out of Ted's 3-4? Not many at all.

    You will get no pressure with your lineman. Nothing that cannot be pocketed away. 3-4 relies heavily on blitzes for pressure. Either from the CB or LB position. Playing end in a 3-4 is vastly different from playing a tackle in a 4-3. Kevin Williams may have the physical attributes you think work for a 3-4 end, but he doesn't have the knowledge to pull it off at this time.

    There is a reason the 3-4 is very rare and it isn't because it takes super awesome talent to run it, it is because any team with a good offensive cordinator can destroy it. Switching in and out of the 3-4 may work sometimes, but as we have seen first hand it can hurt you just as bad. One poorly called blitz and you will be seeing the backside of the RB as he scampers away.

    The Brian Williams comment it not worth addressing. Statistically he is damn near the same as Smoot. If we didn't drop 10 truckloads of cash on his overated ass B-Will would still be starting.

    Ted Cottrells defense is horrendous. Any CB that is in it will be struggling to survive. He leaves each and every one of them out to dry, and yet playmakers still make plays.

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    Brian Williams is an ABOVE AVERAGE NFL corner. He tackles well, he blitzes exceptionally well and he is a solid cover guy. There are at least 14 teams in the league where he would start, if not more.
    I am not in the "he is as good as Smoot" boat, but I definitely think he is as good a No. 3 corner as there is in the league and he is a very good asset. ALL CORNERS GET BURNED sometimes ... that is the nature of the game. Hell, A-Dub has gotten burned more this season than he did the last three years combined ... I blame a lot of the burns on the defensive scheme and a lack of safety help (like the Chad Johnson touchdown where A-Dub clearly thought he had help overtop).
    He had 70+ tackles the last two season, which is pretty good and got a fair number of picks as a starting corner.
    I like A-Dub and Smoot and think both are solid cover corners, but Williams does make plays and I think he is very valuable in today's pass-happy NFL. He was clearly a stud on Sunday ... and we should see more of that in the future.

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    Del you need to be our new D coordinator. Seriously.. You know way more than Ted Cotrell. well... Thats not saying much. I know more than Ted Cotrell but anyways.......

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