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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    I don't have a problem trading up. how many 2nd and 3rd round picks for the vikings have produced big-time in the past few years? do we really ned 5 rookies, if only 2-3 end up being quality starter anyway?

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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    "Json" wrote:
    I would rather trade our 1st round pick for Schaub. We get to keep our 2nd and 3rd round picks and still get a QB that can battle for the starting posistion.

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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    Hey, I'm a starter now! Yay!

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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    "badbois" wrote:
    I don't have a problem trading up. how many 2nd and 3rd round picks for the vikings have produced big-time in the past few years? do we really ned 5 rookies, if only 2-3 end up being quality starter anyway?
    But if we trade away those picks we will only have 3 rookies and only 0-1 would be a starter(day one picks). You need to save your picks and trade them wisely. You never know what you are going to get so having more picks gives you a better chance to find talent in the rookie pool.

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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    but if you really like someone and thik he will be a top-tier player, isn't htat worth a couple of back-ups?

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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    I don't think you guys realize, but the article said 17, 48, 51. Thats not 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Its 1st, 2nd, 2nd. Yeah they are saying a 1st and both 2nd rounders. By the value chart those picks are worth 1760 points, the Bills #8 pick is only worth 1400 points. That article is full of crap. With that kind of value we could get to the #4 spot.
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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    Plus what it would cost would depend on how motivated the Bills are to get out of that spot. With the Bills it could be economical for them as well, they might not want to pay any player the money and signing bonus that the 8th pick demands. I know that the owner of the Bills is one of the two that voted against the CBA, and he is not making as much as some of the higher market teams and might not want to put out that kind of a signing bonus. If that is the case maybe we can move up for under what the charts say if Buffalo wants to drop down badly enough.
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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    There is no way of knowing if they will be starters or backups or even get the boot on cut day. They are all unporven in the NFL. Every single one of them. I just can't justify spending 3 draft picks on one that is 9 spots higher then ours in the 1st round. It just does not make sence to me. Looking back at all the 1st round QB's in the past 10 years and here is the list

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    Rd Sel#           Player                
    1    26          Jim Druckenmiller  
    
    1998 
    Rd     Sel# Player                 
    1        1      Peyton Manning   
    1        2      Ryan Leaf             
    
    1999 
    Rd    Sel#    Player 
    1       1       Tim Couch 
    1       2       Donovan McNabb 
    1       3       Akili Smith 
    1       11      Daunte Culpepper 
    1       12      Cade McNown 
    
    2000 
    Rd Sel#    Player
    1    18       Chad Pennington 
    
    2001 
    Rd    Sel#     Player 
    1      1     Michael Vick 
    2      32    Drew Brees 
    
    2002 
    Rd Sel#     Player 
    1    1       David Carr 
    1    3        Joey Harrington 
    1    32      Patrick Ramsey
    
    2003 
    Rd  Sel#      Player
    1      1      Carson Palmer
    1      7     Byron Leftwich 
    1      19      Kyle Boller 
    1      22      Rex Grossman 
    
    2004 
    Rd Sel#      Player 
    1    1      Eli Manning 
    1    4      Philip Rivers 
    1    11     Ben Roethlisberger  
    1    22    J.P. Losman 
    
    2005 
    Rd Sel#       Player 
    1     1          Alex Smith 
    1     24        Aaron Rodgers
    1     25        Jason Campbell
    With the exception of payton, big ben, or donovan. Is there anyone on that list you would trade a 1st, and 2 2nd's for?? IMHO those are the only guys that come even close. Out of the 25 QBs drafted in the 1st round in the past 10 years(none was selected in 1996) only 3 have become anyothing above average that is only 12 percent. Too big of a risk IMHO.

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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    "twiztedfait" wrote:
    There is no way of knowing if they will be starters or backups or even get the boot on cut day. They are all unporven in the NFL. Every single one of them. I just can't justify spending 3 draft picks on one that is 9 spots higher then ours in the 1st round. It just does not make sence to me. Looking back at all the 1st round QB's in the past 10 years and here is the list

    With the exception of payton, big ben, or donovan. Is there anyone on that list you would trade a 1st, and 2 2nd's for?? IMHO those are the only guys that come even close. Out of the 25 QBs drafted in the 1st round in the past 10 years(none was selected in 1996) only 3 have become anyothing above average that is only 12 percent. Too big of a risk IMHO.
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    Re: Bills could pass up No. 8 pick, deal down

    Alot of those QB's could have been good, grooming a rookie QB from the start is very important. Childress one on one developed McNabb and I'm 100% sure he'll do it again with our new QB. If you draft a young QB and dont develope him right, you can expect him to become a bust.

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