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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

    Hey Marrdro, how about that Loadholt cat?

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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

    Thanks for the read!
    I love the fact that our rookie right tackle Phil Loadholt has better stats than the highly praised "Rookie of the Year"-candidate left tackle Michael Oher from the Baltimor Ravens. Both Oher and Loadholt have 3 sacks, but Oher has a 2.2 median time, while Loadholt has a very impressive 3.5.
    Yes, I know that Oher plays on the blind side, but I honestly didn't think that Loadholt would play this well. Only 3 sacks allowed halfway through the season is more than you can ask for rookie tackle who has been the starter since week 1.

    PS: McKinnie is also playing great. Might be his first Pro Bowl this season.

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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "tastywaves" wrote:
    That is an interesting compilation of sack info.
    No surprise that the guys leading the Vikings in sacks allowed are the tackles (McKinnie and Loadholt), as it should be.
    They are down the list pretty far, but better yet from their standpoint, is the average time for the sacks that they gave up was 3.5 seconds.
    Some of the longest times on the list.

    From this report it looks like the pass blocking has greatly improved from last year, of course we already knew that.
    Notice Herrera doesn't have any?
    C play next to him must be better.

    or maybe Herrera stepped up his game.
    How many does Birk have?

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    Knew that was coming 1.5-2.0 So I guess we're both right, I said Sully couldn't possibly be playing as good as Birk, and this stat says they are close, Although Birks time is better.
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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

    "molineviking" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "tastywaves" wrote:
    That is an interesting compilation of sack info.
    No surprise that the guys leading the Vikings in sacks allowed are the tackles (McKinnie and Loadholt), as it should be.
    They are down the list pretty far, but better yet from their standpoint, is the average time for the sacks that they gave up was 3.5 seconds.
    Some of the longest times on the list.

    From this report it looks like the pass blocking has greatly improved from last year, of course we already knew that.
    Notice Herrera doesn't have any?
    C play next to him must be better.

    or maybe Herrera stepped up his game.
    How many does Birk have?

    :




    Knew that was coming 1.5-2.0 So I guess we're both right, I said Sully couldn't possibly be playing as good as Birk, and this stat says they are close, Although Birks time is better.
    And of course sacks are not the only measure of an offensive lineman. Especially for interior lineman.

    Though I am very happy with Sully's play and do not miss Birk personally.

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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

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    Hey Marrdro, how about that Loadholt cat?
    Already commented on him.
    A pleasant suprise.
    Quick question, are you trying to make it out that I don't like PL?

    Comeon, just cause I thought there were better options at OT at 21 doesn't mean I wasn't happy they got him with thier second. My biggest worry was that with all the hype, that they would reach and take him with the 21rst pick.


    Hell, didn't you want them to plug in some PUKER cat with a bum knee.......(Tauscher).


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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

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    [quote author=tastywaves link=topic=54158.msg1016720#msg1016720 date=1258130315]
    That is an interesting compilation of sack info.
    No surprise that the guys leading the Vikings in sacks allowed are the tackles (McKinnie and Loadholt), as it should be.
    They are down the list pretty far, but better yet from their standpoint, is the average time for the sacks that they gave up was 3.5 seconds.
    Some of the longest times on the list.

    From this report it looks like the pass blocking has greatly improved from last year, of course we already knew that.
    Notice Herrera doesn't have any?
    C play next to him must be better.

    or maybe Herrera stepped up his game.
    How many does Birk have?

    :




    Knew that was coming 1.5-2.0 So I guess we're both right, I said Sully couldn't possibly be playing as good as Birk, and this stat says they are close, Although Birks time is better.
    [size=10pt]And of course sacks are not the only measure of an offensive lineman. Especially for interior lineman[/size].

    Though I am very happy with Sully's play and do not miss Birk personally.
    [/quote]
    Exactly.
    What I like is that the whole OL is playing better without Matt.
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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    "molineviking" wrote:
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    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=54158.msg1016756#msg1016756 date=1258136723]
    [quote author=tastywaves link=topic=54158.msg1016720#msg1016720 date=1258130315]
    That is an interesting compilation of sack info.
    No surprise that the guys leading the Vikings in sacks allowed are the tackles (McKinnie and Loadholt), as it should be.
    They are down the list pretty far, but better yet from their standpoint, is the average time for the sacks that they gave up was 3.5 seconds.
    Some of the longest times on the list.

    From this report it looks like the pass blocking has greatly improved from last year, of course we already knew that.
    Notice Herrera doesn't have any?
    C play next to him must be better.

    or maybe Herrera stepped up his game.
    How many does Birk have?

    :




    Knew that was coming 1.5-2.0 So I guess we're both right, I said Sully couldn't possibly be playing as good as Birk, and this stat says they are close, Although Birks time is better.
    [size=10pt]And of course sacks are not the only measure of an offensive lineman. Especially for interior lineman[/size].

    Though I am very happy with Sully's play and do not miss Birk personally.
    [/quote]
    Exactly.
    What I like is that the whole OL is playing better without Matt.

    [/quote]

    No doubt. While I would not directly attribute that to a lack of Matt and the addition of Sully ... we definitely are performing better. I think a big reason our line is looking better is the addition of Favre and Harvin making defense have to do some things differently other than just go all out after our inexperienced QB.

    I like Sully though, and definitely think this move has paid off overall.

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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

    "midgensa" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "midgensa" wrote:
    "molineviking" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    [quote author=marstc09 link=topic=54158.msg1016760#msg1016760 date=1258136842]
    [quote author=Marrdro link=topic=54158.msg1016756#msg1016756 date=1258136723]
    [quote author=tastywaves link=topic=54158.msg1016720#msg1016720 date=1258130315]
    That is an interesting compilation of sack info.
    No surprise that the guys leading the Vikings in sacks allowed are the tackles (McKinnie and Loadholt), as it should be.
    They are down the list pretty far, but better yet from their standpoint, is the average time for the sacks that they gave up was 3.5 seconds.
    Some of the longest times on the list.

    From this report it looks like the pass blocking has greatly improved from last year, of course we already knew that.
    Notice Herrera doesn't have any?
    C play next to him must be better.

    or maybe Herrera stepped up his game.
    How many does Birk have?

    :




    Knew that was coming 1.5-2.0 So I guess we're both right, I said Sully couldn't possibly be playing as good as Birk, and this stat says they are close, Although Birks time is better.
    [size=10pt]And of course sacks are not the only measure of an offensive lineman. Especially for interior lineman[/size].

    Though I am very happy with Sully's play and do not miss Birk personally.
    [/quote]
    Exactly.
    What I like is that the whole OL is playing better without Matt.

    [/quote]

    No doubt. While I would not directly attribute that to a lack of Matt and the addition of Sully ... we definitely are performing better. I think a big reason our line is looking better is the addition of Favre and Harvin making defense have to do some things differently other than just go all out after our inexperienced QB.

    I like Sully though, and definitely think this move has paid off overall.
    [/quote]
    Well, maybe not Harvin, but I will give you the QB's play.
    He is obviously helping with some of the pre-snap reads, but I do remember reading
    were he said something along the lines that Sully typically gets most of them right.

    I thought Hutch would play a bigger role in that when TJ and Sage were still possible starting candidates.
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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    Hey Marrdro, how about that Loadholt cat?
    Already commented on him.
    A pleasant suprise.
    Quick question, are you trying to make it out that I don't like PL?

    Comeon, just cause I thought there were better options at OT at 21 doesn't mean I wasn't happy they got him with thier second. My biggest worry was that with all the hype, that they would reach and take him with the 21rst pick.


    Hell, didn't you want them to plug in some PUKER cat with a bum knee.......(Tauscher).



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    Re: Between the Lines: Who's Allowing the Most Sacks?

    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "marstc09" wrote:
    "Marrdro" wrote:
    "tastywaves" wrote:
    That is an interesting compilation of sack info.
    No surprise that the guys leading the Vikings in sacks allowed are the tackles (McKinnie and Loadholt), as it should be.
    They are down the list pretty far, but better yet from their standpoint, is the average time for the sacks that they gave up was 3.5 seconds.
    Some of the longest times on the list.

    From this report it looks like the pass blocking has greatly improved from last year, of course we already knew that.
    Notice Herrera doesn't have any?
    C play next to him must be better.
    or maybe Herrera stepped up his game.
    How many does Birk have?
    :
    LMFAO! 1.5 compared to Sullivans 2!
    : Notice the time. 3.3 compared to 2.6.
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    +1.

    And look at the stats for both teams.

    Veteran Tackles

    Jared Gaither





    BAL
    2

    3
    Bryant McKinnie
    MIN
    4
    3.5

    Rookie Tackles
    Michael Oher




    BAL
    3
    2.2
    Phil Loadholt





    MIN
    3
    3.5

    LG
    Ben Grubbs





    BAL
    1

    2.8
    Steve Hutchinson
    MIN
    1
    2.7

    RG
    Herrera





    0 I believe
    Chris Chester
    BAL
    4






    But perhaps the biggest move was signing six-time Pro Bowl center Matt Birk when Jason Brown left for the St. Louis Rams via free agency. Not only has Birk’s steady play shown up on the field, but he brings much-needed veteran leadership to a young offensive line meeting room.

    “Matt has tied our whole line together. Matt in his own right is a really good player,” Harbaugh noted.

    “He does a lot for Joe as far as helping Joe identify some things. He does a great job of communicating to those young guys on either side which direction they need to be going, and that’s really important for a center.”
    Hmmm. Seems a coach likes what he is doing.


    As an aside. I like Sully and believe he is going to be great for the team for a long time. I just have a problem with putting the blame for last years offense on the C instead of on the QB position (Both players) where it squarely belongs. The difference this year has to do with the QB and not the guy snapping the ball.

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