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    Re:Active QB's that are most likely HOFers

    Favre, Peyton, Brady. In that order.

    Warner is not active. He retired.

    Brees sucks. Next possible is McNabb
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    Re:Active QB's that are most likely HOFers

    jmcdon00 wrote:
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    Favre, Manning, Brady are all in.

    Warner should, eventually. I think he will get some credit for what he did before the nfl.

    McNabb needs a superbowl. With one he's in, without probably not.

    I don't think Ben makes it. Too early to say for certain but I think his charachter flaws will eventually catch up to him.

    I think Eli Manning has a good shot. If I were betting I'd put him ahead of Ben.

    Drew brees still has a long way to go, but I think he probably makes it. He'll be a lock with one more ring.

    I don't see it happening for Flacco, Ryan, Romo, Rodgers. Time will tell. If I had to pick one with the best chance I'd go Rodgers.
    Eli? LMAO! The guy is decent at best. He's not the leader that his brother is. And doesn't have half the skill he has. Ben gets in way before Eli does.
    Eli has never missed a game in his career. His numbers have improved every year he has been in the league. I expect him to stay with the Giants his whole career, this will give him many more chances at a ring IMHO(to go along with the one he has and his superbowl mvp). Eli has a great support system, including a former nfl QB father, a future nfl QB hall of famer brother, and a wife he has been with since his college days.
    So? Since when did your wife get taken into account for HOF voting? They look at production and effect as a player. Eli is good, but not great. And he's a huge bitch, and he's not a leader. And starting games? Look at who the all-time leader in consecutive games/starts was prior to Favre. He's not in the HOF (No, I don't count Feagles, he's a Punter).

    Ben has only played in all 16 games once in his career, he will miss atleast the first 2 games of 2010. Ben does have great career numbers, but has not always been consistant, having down years in 2006 and 2008.
    Look at Bradshaw's numbers. Look at Joe Namath's numbers. Both are in the HOF, Bradshaw got there ONLY because he was a Steeler, and Namath got there ONLY because he won a superbowl and had one great season.
    The Steelers are a fine organization, none better, which is why I think the next chance they get they will move Ben. His odds of winning another ring go down if he's chucking the ball for the raiders. Ben has not always made good decisions off the field. He was cited for riding a motorcyle without a license or a helmet. Twice he has been accused of sexual assault. The second incident also involved heavy drinking.
    and yet off-field activity is not supposed to be taken into account for HOF voting. Ben did lead his team back in the superbowl to a dramatic finish, had one of the best rookie seasons* ever, and has been a solid QB in the league. IMO he's better than Eli, and I'd prefer him as a Viking over Eli.

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    Re:Active QB's that are most likely HOFers

    i_bleed_purple wrote:
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    Favre, Manning, Brady are all in.

    Warner should, eventually. I think he will get some credit for what he did before the nfl.

    McNabb needs a superbowl. With one he's in, without probably not.

    I don't think Ben makes it. Too early to say for certain but I think his charachter flaws will eventually catch up to him.

    I think Eli Manning has a good shot. If I were betting I'd put him ahead of Ben.

    Drew brees still has a long way to go, but I think he probably makes it. He'll be a lock with one more ring.

    I don't see it happening for Flacco, Ryan, Romo, Rodgers. Time will tell. If I had to pick one with the best chance I'd go Rodgers.
    Eli? LMAO! The guy is decent at best. He's not the leader that his brother is. And doesn't have half the skill he has. Ben gets in way before Eli does.
    Eli has never missed a game in his career. His numbers have improved every year he has been in the league. I expect him to stay with the Giants his whole career, this will give him many more chances at a ring IMHO(to go along with the one he has and his superbowl mvp). Eli has a great support system, including a former nfl QB father, a future nfl QB hall of famer brother, and a wife he has been with since his college days.
    So? Since when did your wife get taken into account for HOF voting? They look at production and effect as a player. Eli is good, but not great. And he's a huge bitch, and he's not a leader. And starting games? Look at who the all-time leader in consecutive games/starts was prior to Favre. He's not in the HOF (No, I don't count Feagles, he's a Punter).

    Ben has only played in all 16 games once in his career, he will miss atleast the first 2 games of 2010. Ben does have great career numbers, but has not always been consistant, having down years in 2006 and 2008.
    Look at Bradshaw's numbers. Look at Joe Namath's numbers. Both are in the HOF, Bradshaw got there ONLY because he was a Steeler, and Namath got there ONLY because he won a superbowl and had one great season.
    The Steelers are a fine organization, none better, which is why I think the next chance they get they will move Ben. His odds of winning another ring go down if he's chucking the ball for the raiders. Ben has not always made good decisions off the field. He was cited for riding a motorcyle without a license or a helmet. Twice he has been accused of sexual assault. The second incident also involved heavy drinking.
    and yet off-field activity is not supposed to be taken into account for HOF voting. Ben did lead his team back in the superbowl to a dramatic finish, had one of the best rookie seasons* ever, and has been a solid QB in the league. IMO he's better than Eli, and I'd prefer him as a Viking over Eli.

    *denotes a team carrying him to 15 win season
    I was just pointing out eli has a good support system. Most men will give there wives a great deal of credit for their success. Being a husband and father is a great motivator.

    I think Eli's teammates would disagree that he is a bitch and not a leader. I would too, but I don't know him.

    Consecutive starts alone won't get you in the hall of fame, but missing games does not help a players chances. I would be willing to bet that players that consistantly miss games in their 20's miss even more in their 30's than guys who are consistantly healthy. It shows preparation or lack there of.

    Bradshaw and Namoth played in a different era. Not really comparable. We're talking about Eli and Ben.

    I'm pretty sure off the field incidents do play a large role in hall of fame voting. Maybe it shouldn't but it does, such things are impossible to ignore. Goodell believes charachter should be considered.

    The Pro Football Hall of Fame bases enshrinement on only one factor: on-field achievements and contributions to the game. The Commissioner disagrees with that approach.

    "I do believe that it's more than just how you conduct yourself on the field," Goodell said. "I believe very firmly that it's how you conduct yourself on and off the field as a member of the National Football League. That's part of your contribution to the game."
    Again just my opinion. Could be they both get in or neither.

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    Re:Active QB's that are most likely HOFers

    Absolute Locks: Favre, P.Manning, Brady, Warner
    Almost Locks: Drew Brees
    Toss-up, but probably in: Donovan McNabb
    When done, will likely make a case: E. Manning, Roethlisberger, Rivers
    Not in, but with a Super Bowl appearance and/or win will start to get looked at: Cutler, Romo, Rodgers, Palmer.
    To early to tell: Sanchez, Ryan, Stafford, etc.

    This is one position that the Hall is not limited to JUST winners (Fouts, Marino, Moon for example) and McNabb has a really good shot, though he needs either a few more years of solid numbers or another Super Bowl appearance.

    Eli would be a lock with another title as would Roethlisberger. Both could still get there on numbers in the long run. Rivers' numbers combined with age mean he will have a real good shot at compiling some unreal stats by the end.
    The other category is QBs that still need some numbers AND a Super Bowl win more than likely. Most of these guys have had big seasons, or multiple big seasons, and it is fair to assume if they got to the promised land it would be a big season and add to their resumes.

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    Re:Active QB's that are most likely HOFers

    midgensa wrote:
    Absolute Locks: Favre, P.Manning, Brady, Warner
    Almost Locks: Drew Brees
    Toss-up, but probably in: Donovan McNabb
    When done, will likely make a case: E. Manning, Roethlisberger, Rivers
    Not in, but with a Super Bowl appearance and/or win will start to get looked at: Cutler, Romo, Rodgers, Palmer.
    To early to tell: Sanchez, Ryan, Stafford, etc.

    This is one position that the Hall is not limited to JUST winners (Fouts, Marino, Moon for example) and McNabb has a really good shot, though he needs either a few more years of solid numbers or another Super Bowl appearance.

    Eli would be a lock with another title as would Roethlisberger. Both could still get there on numbers in the long run. Rivers' numbers combined with age mean he will have a real good shot at compiling some unreal stats by the end.
    The other category is QBs that still need some numbers AND a Super Bowl win more than likely. Most of these guys have had big seasons, or multiple big seasons, and it is fair to assume if they got to the promised land it would be a big season and add to their resumes.
    I think Warner is a SHOULD be in, but may take a bit of time. Brees could get there and I wouldn't be shocked to see him get himself in with more work.

    McNabb just doesn't have it.... he's been good to very good his entire career, but that doesn't say HoF worthy to me... even with a ring I don't know... (I don't value the ring as much as most voters, to be honest). I think Roethlisberger will end up making it on rings... Eli better not, he just is not that good... and he annoys me Rivers has the possibility of getting there.


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    Re:Active QB's that are most likely HOFers

    Brett Favre and Peyton Manning for sure.

    Tom Brady most likely.

    Beyond that, we have a bunch of guys who are good/great RIGHT NOW, but likely won't have an overwhelming effect on the game itself.

    Favre gets it because he owns almost every record.
    Manning, because he'll break them all and he's the best pure QB ever to play.

    Brady's knock is that he's a product of the system...his upside is that he FLOURISHED in that system and dominated the NFL for quite a few years.

    Warner has a shot, but he's a Brady type QB - one who was great in certain systems.

    Roethlisberger's off field antics won't hurt him...not really...unless he gets booted from the NFL for them. Michael Irvin's crack use and hookers didn't keep HIM out...

    Eli Manning is a shadow of his brother. Peyton is his biggest cheerleader, but no one else puts them in the same category.

    Brees has had some success, but not NFL changing. If he repeats with another Superbowl win this year, then we can add him to the list of possibles, but chances are he'll have a GOOD career, but that's it.

    Keep in mind, the guys who made it to the Hall all did something SPECIAL. They either dominated during their era, won multiple Championships, or set records. IMO, only Favre, Manning, and maybe Brady rise to that level currently.

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    Re:Active QB's that are most likely HOFers

    Brady most likely? Brady is a lock. No question about it. Not only a lock, but a first ballot lock. He has three rings. That makes him a lock.

    As for the others. I am saying those guys have a shot. Drew Brees is REALLY close to being a hall of famer. To say he didn't do anything special is WAY off. He has the second most yards in a season ALL TIME. He is now a Super Bowl champion and is a former first team All-Pro and a 4x Pro Bowler. He is not a lock yet, but if he has ONE more 30+ TD season and 4,400 yard season (which he will this year) then he will become a virtual lock.

    As for McNabb, he is very fringe ALREADY. If he puts up any sort of respectable numbers for a few more years (which it is debatable whether he will) then he will have a really strong shot at it. He is going to finish in the top 15 or so all-time in yards, the top 15 or so in TDs and the top 10 in wins (everyone else in the top ten in that category is in).

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    Re:Active QB's that are most likely HOFers

    I'd agree with Midge about Brady only.

    Brady is for sure in. I'll agree that his play and numbers, maybe on any other team wouldn't get him in, but the fact he won 3 superbowls gets him in. Superbowls get guys like Montana, Young, Bradshaw, Aikman in the HOF, but guys liek Jim Marshall and Cris Carter have to wait/don't get in.

    Drew Brees IMO isn't close yet. He's had a handful of excellent seasons, and three average to above average. He hasn't played long enough to warrant it, and at the end of the day when all is said and done, people will remember Manning much more lividly than Brees.

    Remember, people here are thinking that 4-5 of the top QB's of the past 5 years are going in the hall, which simply isn't going to happen. Top 2-3 at most. Favre, Manning and Brady. Everyone else misses unless Brees/Roethlisberger start winning more superbowls, or one of the new kids (Ryan, Flacco, Stafford) develop into a HOF player.

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    Re:Active QB's that are most likely HOFers

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    Warner should, eventually. I think he will get some credit for what he did before the nfl.
    He should get credit for bagging groceries at Hy-Vee?

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    lol. why would he get credit for not being good enough to play i n the NFL, then becoming good enough?

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