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    Active Players In The Hall Of Fame

    First, I want to say that for a player to be inducted into the Hall of Fame he has to be a special player who (apart from special circumstances) stood out at his position. Since one-year wonders and alike come and go, it's just as import that he has been a constant elite performer for many years.

    A third criteria is how the player impacted the league and his team. This takes the player's position into consideration a little. For example, a quarterback is more valuable to the team than the linebacker. However, impact can also mean that a player influenced his position, like Brian Urlacher helped redefine the role of the middle linebacker (who by the way is not a candidate because of his recent retirement).

    I don't value Super Bowl rings as much as many others do. It's a team sport first and furthermost. A Super Bowl win is about being lucky enough to be on the right team. Even the most important player: the quarterback; can't win without his teammates.

    Lastly, not many players are named here, but that's how it's suppose to be. The Hall of Fame is a very very exclusive club and listening to people claiming newly retired players like Ronde Barber belongs in the Hall of Fame is ridiculous. Barber was a great player, but many people are quick to throw the "HoF Lock" label around.

    For example, I think Brett Favre is not a first-ballot Hall of Famer. He undoubtedly had a great career and his durability was one-of-a-kind. Statistical, he's the number one passer in history which makes for an obvious argument, but that is more related to the number of games he played than you'd prefer. And let's not forget that out of all his records, the passes intercepted is probably the least likely to be broken. That doesn't compare well when he played in an era of super-efficient quarterbacks like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.

    Honestly, do I think he will get in on the first ballot: yes.
    It doesn't hurt that Brett Favre was one of the most-liked players in NFL for multiple decades either.

    Hall of Fame Locks
    Active NFL players in 2013 (this excludes Ray Lewis) who could retire today and probably enter the Hall of Fame on the first-ballot. In order, four players who are so-called "no-brainers":

    1. Peyton Manning
      Third most passing yards in history, second most touchdowns. There has never been someone like him; the mastermind of football. 37 years old and even to this date perhaps the best in the league.
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    2. Tony Gonzales
      Most touchdowns caught by a tight end in history. Even more impressive: second most receptions by any position behind Jerry Rice. 37 years old and still plays on a high level. Fulfills every criteria: super consistent high performer over a huge period of time and impacted the game as he contributed to the evolution of the tight end position.
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    3. Tom Brady
      Fifth most touchdown passes in history. His mental approach to the game and consistent reach for perfection is unique. 35 years old and owns three Super Bowl rings.
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    4. Ed Reed
      10th most intercepted passes in history. Give him another decent year and he'll be number 5 right behind "Night Trane" Lane. At worst, the best free safety of the decade. Uncanny nose for the ball and a master at baiting the passer into throwing interceptions. Furthermore, he is a great runner with the ball in his hands as he has the most interception return yards in history. He contributes on special teams in multiple ways and his versatility is prominent as he's the first person in NFL history to return an interception, punt, blocked punt, and fumble for a touchdown.


    Give It A Few More Years...
    Active NFL players in 2013 who either needs more years off the field with HoF eligibility or a few more years on the field to make the Hall of Fame.

    1. Drew Brees
      Living in the shadow of Manning and Brady isn't easy. He also had to fight criticism against his height and arm strength in the early part of his career. Just imagine how better his numbers would have been if he had been trusted like Manning was from the beginning, and if played for the Saints from day one. Despite all this, he already has the 6th most pass touchdowns in history, and the 8th most yards, which is one spot ahead of Tom Brady. 34 years old and Inch-for-inch, most likely the best passer of all time.
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    2. Adrian Peterson
      At only 28 years old, he already owns the record for most rushing yards in a game, second most yards in a season, and most 60+ yard TD runs in history. We have witnessed Peterson run for over 2000 yards on arguably the worst pass offense while coming of a devastating knee injury. The future is bright for this man!
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    3. Charles Woodson
      With 56 interceptions, 30 forced fumbles, 11 touchdowns and 18 sacks, he is one of the most complete corners in history. 36 years old and likely to retire after this season.
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    4. Champ Bailey
      The best pure cornerback of the last century. 34 years old.
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    5. Troy Polamalu
      This is a good example of a candidate where you can't just look at the numbers. Not that his numbers are bad by any means, but it's his great toughness, skills, and remarkable unique instincts that makes him special. He is the special type of payer that the offense needs to know where is at all times. His playing style is aggressive and risky, but it makes him into arguably the biggest defensive game-changers of this century.
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    6. Jared Allen
      Two years removed from having the second most sacks in a season throughout NFL's history. With his 117 sacks, no other active player has more career sacks. That's a big reason why Allen is the only defensive lineman on this list. Two more years with his average sack numbers and Allen will touch the top 5 on the all-time list.


    Final words: you have probably noticed the near complete absent of linemen and wide receivers. This is mostly a co-incident. The most obvious candidates at wide receiver: Randy Moss and Terrell Owens; are currently not on any teams and are consequently not included in this conversation. The next in line of wide receivers is a little crowdy and need to produce a little more, especially the one with the most promise: Calvin Johnson. Another reason for the lack of receivers are all the rules in favor of the receivers and the passing offense. Comparing the recent statistics of receivers and quarterbacks to older players has become near impossible.

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    I think Crissy Klueless should be in the Hall. Never has there been a PUNTER with more on his agenda then Crissy.

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    newly retired rhonde barber (look at his numbers they are crazy) and ray lewis should make the hall...

    Others:

    London Flethcher
    reggie wayne
    Jason Witten
    Kevin Williams
    Antoine Winfield
    Ben Rothlesberger

    I think all those "few more years" dudes you have on your list are locks to make it except for Troy Palamalu who i think his injury history will keep him from getting in.. Woodson and Bailey have been elite corners in the league for the last decade...

    Given AP's dominance and Bree's superbowl with that offense I think they are both locks...

    I'd give Aaron Rogers and Megatron 3-4 more elite years and they should be close to getting in too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedpurple View Post
    newly retired rhonde barber (look at his numbers they are crazy) and ray lewis should make the hall...

    Others:

    London Flethcher
    reggie wayne
    Jason Witten
    Kevin Williams
    Antoine Winfield
    Ben Rothlesberger

    I think all those "few more years" dudes you have on your list are locks to make it except for Troy Palamalu who i think his injury history will keep him from getting in.. Woodson and Bailey have been elite corners in the league for the last decade...

    Given AP's dominance and Bree's superbowl with that offense I think they are both locks...

    I'd give Aaron Rogers and Megatron 3-4 more elite years and they should be close to getting in too.
    You're far too generous!!!!!
    A player in the Hall of Fame should (as a rule of thumb) be one who stand out among everyone else at his position when he played in the league. Of course there are exceptions: Peyton Manning and Tom Brady for example, both of them will be inducted on the first ballot.

    You think all those players should go to the Hall of Fame... but remember we also have 93 years of rich history with many great players. Not "everyone" can make it.

    You mention Reggie Wayne... London Flethcher... those are some great players and I have tremendous respect for them, but a Hall of Fame player should be one that blows your mind. London Fletcher played in the same era as Brian Urlacher and Ray Lewis. Ray Lewis will get in on the first ballot and Urlacher should eventually too. Fletcher have never been considered the best linebacker in the league. That's just not HoF material in my opinion.

    Reggie Wayne played in an era of Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Brandon Marshall, Calvin Johnson, etc. To be honest, I'd take everyone of them in their prime over Reggie Wayne if I had to pick one receiver for one game... and that's just names from the top of my head. I really like Reggie Wayne, but when I can name at least 6 other players form the same era then that's not Hall of Fame worthy in my opinion. Maybe after many years...

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    Just to clarify ... Drew Brees and Champ Baily are Hall of Fame locks ... it is not even close, honestly.

    Charles Woodson is a really interesting candidate, but he probably gets in.

    As for the others I think you are pretty spot on. I think All Day and Jared Allen both have good shots. Kevin Williams has an outside shot. London Fletcher has NO shot. Reggie Wayne ... slim ... but outside shot. Polamalu needs a handful of non-injury years to get there ... and I don't see it happening.

    Ben Roethlisberger is approaching lock status as his stats continue to be solid and he already has two rings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by midgensa View Post
    Just to clarify ... Drew Brees and Champ Baily are Hall of Fame locks ... it is not even close, honestly.
    Oh... I definitely believe Drew Brees and Champ Bailey belong in the Hall of Fame too. I guess the header is a bit misleading. Maybe I should change it... I just meant that if all of the guys retired today. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and the other two guys will get in before Drew Brees and Champ Bailey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleedpurple View Post
    newly retired rhonde barber (look at his numbers they are crazy) and ray lewis should make the hall...

    Others:

    London Flethcher
    reggie wayne
    Jason Witten
    Kevin Williams
    Antoine Winfield
    Ben Rothlesberger

    I think all those "few more years" dudes you have on your list are locks to make it except for Troy Palamalu who i think his injury history will keep him from getting in.. Woodson and Bailey have been elite corners in the league for the last decade...

    Given AP's dominance and Bree's superbowl with that offense I think they are both locks...

    I'd give Aaron Rogers and Megatron 3-4 more elite years and they should be close to getting in too.
    Fletcher - No way.
    Wayne - if it took Carter this long, and Reed still isn't in, Wayne won't be in. There's still Marvin Harrison who needs to be in long before Wayne. Add in Torry HOlt, Issac Bruce, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, There are quite a few real good WRs that will be eligible soon. The criteria to get in as a receiver just got a whole lot tougher.
    Witten - Interesting candidate. One of the all-time leaders in receptions, and a good blocker. Been reliable his whole career. I wouldn't be shocked if he got in.
    Kevin Williams - Unfortunately no.
    Antoine Winfield - He doesn't get the respect he deserves NOW, no way people are going to be talking about him 5 years from now unless they're vikings fans.
    Ben Roethlisberger - Probably a good shot, if he keeps putting up good numbers, and if he wins another superbowl, I'd say a lock.
    Polamalu - He's basically done in this league, and I don't think he's done enough for long enough at a tough position to make it in.
    Champ Bailey is an absolute lock.
    Charles Woodson will probably make it, especially being a Packer/Raider
    Rodgers - Has to keep up the production, but I think he'll be in if he keeps it up.
    Brees - Same as above. only guy to ever throw two 5000 yard games, all-time leader in yards, only got better after his injury. He's going to be in
    Allen - a few more 15+ sack seasons, and he's in. Guy has been unstoppable his whole career, with his worst season being a 12 sack year he played through injuries
    Freeney - Has been productive his whole career. slowed down with age, but so do alot of players.
    Peterson - I truly believe he's generated enough attention, and enough respect across the league, that if he retired at the end of this year, he'd be under heavy consideration. If Gayle Sayers is in, then Peterson should be able to make it in.
    Moss - He has a good shot, but I think he'll be waiting a little while.
    P. Manning - Lock
    Brady - Lock
    Gonzalez - Lock
    Reed - Lock
    Fitz - Lock
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    the only two I'll comment on are Kevin Williams and Antoine Winfield, love them both but I think they are just shy of making it.

    Kevin is missing some pro bowls and doesn't have the big bang sack numbers that would get him in and I think he'll will probably be known as part of a duo in the Williams wall and a stout run defense but he just wasn't a huge enough standout on his own.

    Antoine was over looked for some pro bowls he should have had and was a great hitter/tackler for a his size but I'm not sure he get up there with a Ronnie Lott or John Lynch for the banging and he didn't have the jets like Darrell Green nor the big pick numbers or a shutdown corner. Even his pro bowls were on the second team (which I think he was better) but there isn't a second team hall of fame.

    To be a hall of famer they have to impact the whole league at their position although they did impact the Vikings. Not to slit them but I think they both miss the hall but they should get up there on the Vikings ring of honor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikinggreg View Post
    the only two I'll comment on are Kevin Williams and Antoine Winfield, love them both but I think they are just shy of making it.

    Kevin is missing some pro bowls and doesn't have the big bang sack numbers that would get him in and I think he'll will probably be known as part of a duo in the Williams wall and a stout run defense but he just wasn't a huge enough standout on his own.

    Antoine was over looked for some pro bowls he should have had and was a great hitter/tackler for a his size but I'm not sure he get up there with a Ronnie Lott or John Lynch for the banging and he didn't have the jets like Darrell Green nor the big pick numbers or a shutdown corner. Even his pro bowls were on the second team (which I think he was better) but there isn't a second team hall of fame.

    To be a hall of famer they have to impact the whole league at their position although they did impact the Vikings. Not to slit them but I think they both miss the hall but they should get up there on the Vikings ring of honor.
    I agree.

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